Yes, my first post was maybe terse, or worse. But the first thing I read in this thread is that Tom has already bought and unloaded a switch rod. That's not to say he'll do the same thing with a Spey outfit. But I seem to recall Tom posting last year as a newb and going through gear like some guys go through socks. That's fine when the objective is to spend money. Speyday is right, Tom will be way further ahead to spend money on casting lessons instead of a rod. In the interest of being helpful, Tom I'm ignoring your original question. My go-to Spey rod doesn't mean shit to you, and given your status as a non-caster, it would be absolutely worthless information. Get some casting lessons and then come and ask us some questions. Our answers will make a hell of a lot more sense to you then. Terse? Yeah, maybe. But why continue to waste bandwidth on useless information? That you read a lot about steelheading and watch DVDs is nice, but still doesn't mean shit until you get your ass out on the river and do some casting with an instructor! So get your ass movin' already. I think psychologists call this "tough love." Sincerely, Salmo g.