Spine "dots" on Sage blanks???

Discussion in 'Rod Building' started by Mike Ediger, Dec 29, 2007.

  1. Mike Ediger Active Member

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    Greetings,
    Am I supposed to be able to wash those things off? I have tried warm water and a cloth and they don't budge, even tried scratching with my finger nail...should I use something stronger or are they supposed to be permanent.
    Also does anyone epoxy over the Logo on the butt section or do you just leave that alone?
    Thanks,
    Mike
  2. Tyler Speir Artist

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    It will come off with alcohol

  3. mike doughty Honorary Member

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    i just use my fingernail
  4. Mike Ediger Active Member

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    Duh, I guess I should have tried alcohol...worked like a charm. Thanks.

    What about the logo? Do you epoxy over that or not...personal choice? I don't really want any more epoxy than I have to have, but I also don't want it coming off either. Personal preference????
    Thanks for the reminder about about alcohol.
    Take care,
    Mike
  5. mike doughty Honorary Member

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    when i apply the rod finish over the threads of the hook keeper i coat the blank with the finish until the sticker is completely coated. if you enlarge the pic you can see what i'm talking about
    http://www.washingtonflyfishing.com/gallery/showphoto.php?photo=15944&ppuser=1793
  6. Mike Ediger Active Member

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    Thanks Mike, I do cover decals or stickers in the same way you do it looks like, but my SLT logo isn't a decal: at least not the same type of decal as my IMX. Each letter seems to be individually printed on the blank. Since there is no decal or sticker, I was wondering if I still need to cover it. I am not sure if it is a type of paint or what it is.
    Anyone know how durable the Sage logo is if it isn't a decal?
  7. Scott Keith Member

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    probably as durable as the "dots". For the official answer I'd give Sage a call.

    Scott
  8. Mike Ediger Active Member

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    I sent Sage customer service an email earlier in the week on both issues, however I haven't heard back yet. I wanted to get it done this weekend so I though I would ask here. I guess I will go ahead and epoxy the wraps, I can also mix up another batch later if they recommend covering the logo.
    I will report what they tell me.
  9. Scott Keith Member

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    I would call them, although they might not be there with the holidays. I have had REALLY long waits getting responses to e-mail.

    Scott

  10. Tyler Speir Artist

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    yes you need to coat it unless you want it to ware off.
  11. TrappedinCO Help! I'm trapped in a landlocked state.

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    I've found that inscription to be harder to get off than the dots, but I was able to do it. I think I even used a little acetone to do it on the last blank, but that's heavier duty stuff and I probably wouldn't mess with that around a rod again - there was no damage to that blank, but with the wrong resin, I could see it damaging a blank. As I recall, using a natural brown coffee filter and alcohol was the key. The filter gave a little more "tooth" than a rag or paper towel, but still didn't scratch the blank.

    They always seem to be too high on the blank for me and I like to write my own, so I typically remove factory lettering. But, you could leave it on and incorporate some thread work if you wanted to keep it. It would probably look best with a little epoxy over it.

    Not to get a spine argument going, but if you wanted to leave their factory inscription, just align the reel seat (and guides, if it's a two piece) to however you want the inscription to be oriented.
  12. Mike Ediger Active Member

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    Just talked to a guy at Sage and he said you do not need to epoxy over it. In fact it is an epoxy-based paint that they use so that it is designed to be durable. Having said that, it will scratch so they do epoxy over the factory rods just for durability, but you certainly don't need to. So there you go, don't need to but they do anyway.
  13. Tyler Speir Artist

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    It will come off over time.
  14. Mike Ediger Active Member

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    Tyler,
    I figured it might. I covered mine just to be safe.
    By the way, that mountain scene you did on one of your rods is beautiful. WOW. That is amazing. Well done.
    Mike
  15. Tyler Speir Artist

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    Thank you, thats something new I have come up with. Its a scratch drawing, that was the experimenting with. The one im going to do next will be sweet.