SRC Newbie - would a Sage ONE 691 be an OK choice?

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  1. Brian White

    Brian White Recovering Bugmeister

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    Not trying to spin up a "which rod is best" thread; just seeking feedback on whether a Sage ONE 9' 6 wt would be a reasonable choice for light salt applications like SRC. I get very good prices on Sage products thanks to a biz relationship and am really hoping to try fly fishing salt this year. I also have birthday clearance for another rod...

    I was born on and grew up in the ocean - but my saltwater fly fishing experience is effectively zilch. I have done a fair amount of saltwater gear fishing, but mostly for bigger fish (think chucking a big piece of skipjack for wahoo, or fishing for marlin) and not over the last few years since becoming largely landlocked.

    On a related note, could I just use a 690 (freshwater seat), or am I much better off with the 691 setup?
     
  2. David Loy

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    Is this a trick question?
    Yes, it would be an excellent choice. If I were in the market for a new uber Puget Sound rod, the short list would be the 691 ONE and the comparable SW version Loomis NRX. You might try the GLX too. Some of the best of the best around here like it as well. Maybe try the Sage VXP for grins.
    You might consider switch rods up front rather than later, maybe wishing you had. Some folks like them a lot.
    I would opt for the SW safe rod and use it in FW too. I doubt you spend much time admiring your wood reel seat while you're out fishing.
     
  3. DimeBrite

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    If you enjoy casting the Sage ONE, then buy it. Get the saltwater reel seat version. Because it's a lighter rod you may want to consider your reel/backing/line weight so it is well balanced for a long day of casting. I'm liking my 9'6" 8weight Sage ONE so far. It's like casting a 6 weight, but retains power. It matches nicely with my well worn Bauer Superlite reel.
     
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    I have been told and have seen that most SW fishers prefer a 9' 8/9wt. I feel and this is only my opinion that a 6wt might be a little light because you never know what you are going to hook up with and you want the outfit to withstand that. Just my $.2
     
  5. Stonefish

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    That would be a great all around beach stick for SRC's and coho. I agree with DimeBrite, I'd look at the 697-4.
     
  6. Preston

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    For most Puget Sound applications an 8/9 weight would be serious overkill. I don't know where you're getting your information, but most beach anglers prefer a 6-weight for their cutthroat and resident coho fishing. Even returning mature coho can easily be handled on a 6-weight and I've caught blackmouth to over nine pounds without really breaking a sweat.
     
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    dryflylarry "Chasing Riseforms"

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    I just picked up a Sage One today, but did not cast it. It was a 6 wt. and felt like a broomstick. If you like fast broomsticks, then that's for you. I don't think I could feel a sea run cutthroat on it it felt so stiff. A 5 wt. is ideal for cutthroat with a med. fast action in my opinion. Perhaps a "tad" faster action would be ok.
     
  8. Nick Clayton

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    Eh, it would be OK. Serviceable, if you could stand encountering other anglers with such a lowly rod in hand.

    Never had any need to go higher than a 6 wt for my beach fishing. Never fished chum where I would prefer to throw something with a bit more authority.
     
  9. chrome/22

    chrome/22 For him there whould always be the riddle of steel

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    Shot some line w/ that Sage ONE 6 wt. the 9' 6" saltwater-version. My SA 250 grain streamer express went across the parking lot & up & over some dudes pick up.

    Yeah it will do.


    c/22
     
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    I've seen Stonefish catch/hook salmon (in person and in photos) more than worthy of an 8 weight. Of course a 6 weight is the way to go for cutthroat, resident coho, and immature blackmouth. I personally carry both a 6 wt and an 8wt to the beach from August-November. You never know.
     
  11. Go Fish

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    Some good advice from the guys that
    are in the trenches. I like a six weight
    but am looking forward to trying
    DB's Sage One if he will let me do
    my shitty casting with it.

    Dave
     
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    I got the 9'6" model for a six weight especially for beach fishing. The extra 1/2 foot will help keep your back cast off the beach. It's truly excellent for cutts, dry fly larry, if you have any trouble feeling the fish, I'd see your doctor. It's very sensitive.

    I've also landed 15# chum and steelhead up to around 12 with it, and was quite happy with the lifting power as well as the casting distance and accuracy. I cast the 9' 6wt with an Outbound Short at PSFly Co today, and while it was very nice, but for beach application, I'd get the 9'6" again.
     
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    I guess I'll go see my doctor after 50 years of fly fishing ... :D
     
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    Generally I am a fan of rods in the 8.5' to 9' range as I find them more fun to cast and more accurate than long rods. As others have said, extra length on the beach is valuable, and accuracy isn't as crucial as in the classic spring creek or pocket water type situation. Another thing to keep in mind is that any SW rod will have a short fighting butt which effectively shortens the rod by 2 or 3 inches and probably the alters swing weight a bit too. A small difference maybe but something to consider. Also, that fighting butt helps keep your reel out of the sand while taking a break.
     
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    Thanks all for the advice! I am excited about fly fishing in salt. I will try the 9'6" 6 wt rod side by side with the 9' rod before I decide which way to go. Lots of great rods with a variety of actions out there, but I'm kind of locked in on Sages for this particular rod for reasons outlined in my first post. Also I will probably stay with 6 wt - versatile for me.
     
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    The 697-4 ONE will and has landed just about anything PS has to offer. It is powerful in the butt section, but sensitive in the tip. I have landed everything from 8" Cutthroat to 14lb Silvers with mine. It has performed flawlessly. Its Konnetic Technology feels stiff in the fly shop, but on the water it is a dream to cast. Anyone who bashes this rod just can't handle or afford ONE.
     
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    As an all around beach rod( if you can only have one) I'm sure the 9'6" 6wt ONE is probably a good choice in the fall but if your looking for cutts or rezzies in April (or most of the year) I think a bit overkill, why fish for 4wt fish, on a fast action 6wt? I know it gets windy, but most of the time a nice med/fast or fast 5wt is more than enough. The time of year will usually dictate what rod I'll use in the salt but I prefer the lightest line weight I can get away with for cutts, even a 4wt in summer...
    because like dryflylarry, I like to "feel" the fish I'm fighting.
     
  18. Nick Clayton

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    Or maybe it just doesn't fit their casting style. I know it may be hard to imagine, but not everyone prefers the same action of rod as you do.
     
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    I can't speak for anyone else, but in my case I guess I was thinking 6 wt because it is pretty versatile and because I could opt for a saltwater reel seat. I'll be shocked if I catch anything at all, so actually "not feeling" a fish I manage to get on would be a pleasure!
     
  20. Stonefish

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    I agree, a salty 6 can be used for a number of other fishing situations besides the salt around here.
    I use mine for bass, light summer steelhead and trout. Not to mention where you might travel to in the future and find use for your 6.
     

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