Steelhead!

Discussion in 'Steelhead' started by Zen Piscator, Dec 10, 2007.

  1. KerryS Ignored Member

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    There are no steelhead. They are a myth perpetuated by guides and tackle manufacturers to help them rid you of your money.
  2. Richard Olmstead BigDog

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    I was under the impression that "A" vs. "B" run steelhead were distinguished solely by the time they enter freshwater. Mid to late summer for A-runs and Fall/winter for B-runs. All of the other characteristics that Pan lists (primarily size and age, but also what rivers they run to, etc.) are associated with them statistically, but don't define the runs.

    Dick
  3. Citori Piscatorial Engineer

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    Zen, once again, captured the essence...good show.

    I have caught B fish. If you ever catch a B fish, you won't ask these kind of questions. (Not that the questions aren't valid, or worth asking...)

    You will likely have glazed over eyes, struggle incoherently to form words, and words into sentences...similar to Brody in "Jaws" when he says, "You're gonna need a bigger boat..."

    And, you will want to do it again.
  4. Jay Thacker Here fishy, fishy, fishy

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    Just one thought: Does anyone think that Mark and Zen's high school experience was not unlike the guys on "Super Bad." Just with some steelhead involved. :thumb:
  5. Will Atlas Guest

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    you mean they never got laid?
  6. inland Active Member

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    Richard,

    You are correct that the runs are counted A/B by a time line at Bonneville dam. August 25th (I think that is the date) and later everything counts as a B. However that isn't really the entire story. If I am remembering correctly they have lines on the window to separate the fish by size (30" I believe) to get a more accurate count of Idaho fish. There was some talk (I seem to recall about 7 or 8 years ago- but it may have been a bit earlier) to adopt this system to distinguish by size instead of the innacurate method currently in use. As it stands, like all things related to steelhead management, status quo remains.

    Will,

    I really don't have any answers to your questions. Something I think IDFG should know. Pan did list the Salmon tribs that contain wild B's. The wild A run is not a hatchery created thing. The little fish have been returning to the Columbia/Snake since the last ice age retreated. All the way into Nevada. The Boise area rivers were once a stronghold as well. Of course the Hell's Canyon dams took care of that 40 or so years ago. There are also wild A's that have and still do reproduce somewhere in the Clearwater drainage.

    William
  7. Will Atlas Guest

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    Its funny, I was passing by bonneville this past september on my way home from a trip and decided to check out the fish viewing window. There was a huge unclipped steelhead that was probably over 15 lbs...not a clue where he ended up, but I imagine the chances are better than decent that he was bound for the snake system.
  8. SilverFly Active Member

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    Gotta say that "Our Dad" is a bit much. Steelie Mike is just a punk kid that gets to fish WAAAAAAYYYYY too much. As I remember he's a pretty good "net bitch" though! ;)
  9. Steelie Mike Active Member

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    Those were some nice little trout Guy. I am glad I could net them for ya!
  10. Manannan Mac Lir Professional enabler

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    Ah...much as I suspected. Lurk and the truth will be revealed. Rods and reels for sale!
  11. CovingtonFly B.O.H.I.C.A. bend over here it comes again

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    I'm not gay but my boyfriend is a nymph fisherman, does that make me gay?
  12. Davy Active Member

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    Are there A-run and B-run Swimsuit models?
  13. Nick Andrews New Member

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    By Gay, does everyone mean, HAPPY? :confused:
  14. rick matney Active Member

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    This has gone to far! :rofl:

    Enough with the homosexual slams. I actually really like all of the gay guys that I know. One of which I am sure can outfish most of us, and he is a great wingman for chick cruising. :thumb:
  15. John Hicks Owner and operator of Sea Run Pursuits

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    In a word...Yes!
  16. gearhead Active Member

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    Metal illness is treatable.
  17. Zen Piscator Supporting wild steelhead, gravel to gravel.

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    God Damn you speak some truth man, I donno what it is about that but no better wingman could exist.

    Anyways I just want people to try to understand that steelhead are nearly everything in life that is beautiful.
  18. Will Atlas Guest

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    Hicks, lets go big when you're out here this spring. OP campout part II.
  19. Jacob Mitchell New Member

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    I am a fisherman that is just getting into steelhead fishing.....what is a b-run??
  20. BDD Active Member

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    For the umpteenth time, a B run steelhead is one that returns to the mouth of the Columbia later than the A run fish and are classified as such by their larger size (length). They are Idaho fish that mostly return to the Dworshak hatchery but there are a few that ascend other Idaho tributaries (Clearwater and Salmon rivers).They posess the genetics to stay at sea longer and get bigger than their A run counterparts. They make excellent fly rod fish in the months of September thru November. They can be caught later but colder water temperatures and the time spent in freshwater cause them to lose some of their appeal and sporting qualities (according to some). They have a history of being chased by many flyfishing legends.