rick- congrats on being old. If you dont like the advice, dont read it. Its an observation, read it as such. I still think that if you keep a more open mind and try to learn it for yourself, you will be much more successful. you can only learn so much from talkin and reading... actually being out, one time so far, will teach you more. I read your post saying... i know the fish like/dislike this, so therefore, I will do this... You are brand new to it. You dont know. Hell everyone that has been at it for a long time doesnt know. there are trends and patterns that everyone will test to the point they think they have found the answer and just then, the fish will completely blow it out of the water.