The Swang

Discussion in 'Spey Clave' started by Mark Bové, Nov 12, 2008.

  1. HauntedByWaters

    HauntedByWaters Active Member

    Another very important thing to remember about the swing is that if there were a lot more steelhead we wouldn't spend 1/5th of the time talking about these details as we do.
  2. KerryS

    KerryS Ignored Member

    I spend most of my time judging a run before I fish it. I can usually tell by looking at the run if it may hold a fish or not. As far as how I present a fly with the swing. I throw line out, I mend, I look around and take in the sights paying little attention to what is happening with the line. I can usually tell if I am fishing by the feel of the rod as the fly moves through the swing. After the swing I do it all again cast, mend, look around. It is more important to understand the water you are fishing then anything else. Learn to read water and the rest will take care if itself.
  3. SpeySpaz

    SpeySpaz still an authority on nothing

    whew! no shit. I was just thinking the sameptyd
  4. TallFlyGuy

    TallFlyGuy Adipossessed!

    The Swang/Swing......Some guys get it, some guys don't.
  5. KerryS

    KerryS Ignored Member

    Swinging/swanging...............some guys catch fish, some guys just talk about it.
  6. doublespey

    doublespey Steelhead-a-holic

    I'm gussing we'd all be spending less time talking about it if the rivers were in shape. ;)
  7. TallFlyGuy

    TallFlyGuy Adipossessed!


    Yeah That
  8. floatinghat

    floatinghat Member


    As said above depends on the water and where the fish are holding. I have runs that I cast steep long and others require a shallow and short. I didn't mind following some people through a run depending on how they are fishing and approach the water.
  9. Mark Bové

    Mark Bové Chasin tail

    I hear I shouldnt follow you threw on the kalama...
  10. inland

    inland Active Member

    "if there were a lot more steelhead we wouldn't spend 1/5th of the time talking about these details"

    I don't think so. :D We would spend even more time arguing over subjective crap. Nuances that catch more fish. Or so we think catch more fish.

  11. SSPey

    SSPey Member

    huge ginormous mends, especially right when the fly lands, because there aren't any fish that take a fly oriented incorrectly and it is nigh impossible to do that with anything except a skagit line. And any cross-currents on the water surface, gotta mend over those, too - needs to be a tightline, always cast at 45 degree, fly moving at a perfectly even speed, always mended to get the right presentation. Mend mend mend a lot during the swing, you know, like the books say. mend. Otherwise, what would the books have to write about? :ray1:
  12. Panhandle

    Panhandle Active Member

    Feeling a little cynical? :D
  13. TallFlyGuy

    TallFlyGuy Adipossessed!

    Only if I'm fishing a floating line and/or a Gay wing:D
  14. inland

    inland Active Member


    I would trade EVERY POS hatchery fish you have caught in SW Washington, while dredging, (and every one you are going to catch for the rest of your life) for ONE native springer steelhead on the surface. Now you get to fish for skamania turds. Possibly not the best yardstick to measure the steelhead world with. ;)

  15. TallFlyGuy

    TallFlyGuy Adipossessed!

    William, you are entitled to your foolish opinions. You can have your POS clearwater Hatchery fish, I have my POS SWWA fish. I can catch Mucho on the swing, and you can have your nil, 1 or 2 fish a season. I'm happy for you.

    If you are using a floating line, the fly better be skating, otherwise why use a floating line? What's the point? Floating line, sunk fly... Genius. How bout sunk fly and clear intermediate tip? When a fish takes the fly on the swing, does it feel different with a sunk line or a floating line? Nope. Takes are takes, some vicious some light, both are encountered on floating and sinking lines. So I hope all your fish are caught on the swing using a floating line and a skater. Otherwise you are defeating the purpose of your floating line. Fish the way you want to fish on the swing and I'll fish the way I want to fish on the swing. The grabs will feel the same, (I'll have a allot more of them)and isn't that what it is all about?

  16. Jergens

    Jergens AKA Joe Willauer

    To answer your question justin, thats not what it's all about. it's all about trying to force your fishing opinions on others, and looking down on people who don't fish the exact same way that you do, is it not?
  17. TallFlyGuy

    TallFlyGuy Adipossessed!

    If you are referring to Inland, Yes
  18. Steelie Mike

    Steelie Mike Active Member

    I love steelhead, it brings the best and worst out of people.
  19. Ed Call

    Ed Call Mumbling Moderator Staff Member

    So long as you guys are sharing flask contents, keep at it. Otherwise, to each his own preferences.
  20. Jergens

    Jergens AKA Joe Willauer

    :thumb: i was being sarcastic, i don't care how people fish, and don't judge them because of it, as long as they value and respect the resource, because THAT's what really matters.