There are still good guys out there!

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  1. JWSS

    JWSS New Member

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    So I screwed up the shuttle Monday by leaving my keys in the wrong rig. After hoofing it several miles, numerous cars refusing my thumb, knocking on several doors only be told "no, I can't give you a ride it's too far", etc, etc, I thought I was going to have finish the hike. The last chance was a little camper with several trucks outside of it, one of which had a pebble mine sticker, please let them be there and willing. Luckily they were, and he was! Big thanks to Mr. Mahoney for the lift. You saved the day sir.
     
  2. montanafos

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    I had the same experience on the Bighorn ( my closest river to home) over here last summer...kinda. The shuttle never moved my vehicle and I had several guides who were taking out and heading right back to where my rig was...and knew my situation...tell me to pound sand. Finally an out of state guy and his Dad...who had no room in their rig for an extra person...went way out of their way to get me back to the shop and my truck. The guides over here on the Bighorn have a terrible reputation...go figure. Thank God for the good guys! I do my best to pay it forward whenever I can.
     
  3. hydrological

    hydrological beads are NOT flies and snagging is just ghetto

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    terrible reputation? hmm, for what? did they remember you from the river for some negative reason? if they had clients they were not heading right back to the put in, they were heading back to the lodge, shop, etc. some times our clients are late for dinner, or have planes to catch, and unless you were the only one left, (doubtful in summer) there usually are plenty of people that ARE heading right back to the put in. there are some asshole guides on any river, just like there are plenty of fishermen with 0 etiquette, that make 0 effort to give you a little wider berth and think its ok to cast to the same rising fish as they float by you. maybe thats not you, but, maybe someone reads this and learns something about etiquette, tailwaters see the worst of all. i'd love to hear more about this reputation. and here is the number for a better shuttle service. 406-666-2206
     
  4. montanafos

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    My apologies...I should have expanded on that statement a bit to be fair. A blanket..."they're all jerks" was not what I meant and it sure sounded that way in my post. Sounds like you may be a guide there so to clarify, in all fairness...the Bighorn guides have reputations of being very good guides for their clients...for sure. However, they have a reputation for being less than accepting of non-guided "locals" in their own drift boats, etc. I'm sure there are very good guys guiding on the Bighorn who will help a person in distress. Unfortunately I have not found those guys in 15 years of fishing the Bighorn with my family in my drift boat. I don't float the river often enough for anyone to remember me and I go out of my way to exercise strong river etiquette. If you're a guide there, you're familiar with this...it's not news. It's the result of too many people on a river and money in the mix. I'm sure guides have their fair share of local "jerks" going out of their way to prove their point on the river as well. This was not the intent of the OP's post, he was merely showing the difference between being blown off in a stressful moment and recognizing the guy that helped him out. I sure don't want to turn this thread in to a negative one. I will give that shuttle service a try. The shuttle I referenced was with one of the shops in Ft Smith.
     
  5. Craig Pablo

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    I still subscribe to the old school style of thinking, if someone is hitching along a stretch of river I'll give 'em a ride, and still choose to hitch rides back to the put in fairly often. The last time was last fall on the Clearwater at the casino takeout, thanks to the two guys in the toyota truck that didn't have room but stuffed me in there anyway!
     
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    Upton O Blind hog fisherman

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    Very nicely said.
     
  7. Panhandle

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    Why is this posted in the spey forum?
     
  8. golfman65

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    I gotta relate this story just for fun...two years ago up on a bc river...that was quite wild by our standards...I ran into a guy who needed a ride back up to his rig....I told him I could stuff him in the back of my fj if he waited for us....
    He decided to hike it instead....Ran into him the next day and asked what happened..(that's how I found out he hiked it)...He said...well that wasn't the smartest decision i've made...it got dark and there were a couple wolves around and some black bears...that didn't really bother me..but when I saw a griz. and what looked like cubs...I was kind of freaked!!! He got a ride from then on...

    Always give a ride, don't know when that might be you....funny how society is now..can't think of any excuse that would mean leaving a guy like that...none...and sorry..clients needs doesn't cut it in my book!!! Pretty sad commentary IMHO...

    If I ever see you hiking Pan...I promise...I'll at least make sure your rod and reel makes it home safe..:)
     
  9. hydrological

    hydrological beads are NOT flies and snagging is just ghetto

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    first, for anyone who hasn't been to the bighorn, we're not talking wilderness, 13 mi takeout in summer is like grand central, with 95% of people heading back upstream. i personally, have given rides to dozens in the same situation, as well as driven the wrong direction when shuttles were run to the wrong takeout. i've also had to say no a couple times when we were going the wrong direction, and there were plenty of boats still upstream, but have never left anyone stranded. i dont think our billings freind said he was left stranded. as for the guides telling him to pack sand, well there are dickheads everywhere, guides or otherwise. as for reputation, i'll give it 50/50 between the actual guides that earn it (there is that minority anywhere), and the discurtious anglers that think a guide is being a dick for getting pissed after he and his clients are nearly mowed down, or otherwise violated by said angler. rule no. 1 in floating any river is to be in control of your boat at all times, and aware of what or who is downstream. personally i take the proactive approach, i'm the guy waving his arms to get the attention of the guys that are looking pretty clueless, or think that its ok to keep chucking at the bank 10 feet above the pod of rising fish we're fishing, and not back away until its too late, if at all (hey joe why is that guy waving his arms wildly? i dont know ed, he looks pretty crazy, maybe we should back away before we get too close) once its happened, theres no point in shouting, its unprofessional, and is even a buzzkill for the clients. dirty looks, are the preferred method at that stage. after guiding, floating or fishing somewhere between 30-40,000 river miles in half a dozen states over the last 25 years, i'm convinced bad etiquette is not the exception, but the rule. tailwaters have it the worst, due to the usually high numbers of fish, and the relative ease of joe average catching big fish, or high numbers. so, i suppose guides on busy tailwaters would get the "reputation" that one might not hear about on say, the dearborn, or the sheilds, or the sun, or anywhere else not everyone has heard of. if you ever want to really see conflict, check out the beaverhead. as for shuttles, if your hitchin it, always carry your rod and look like an angler. and, always, ALWAYS hide your keys with your vehicle, i guarantee you wont need them on the river. :)
     
  10. WABOWMAN

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    Well said by all!!!
     
  11. golfman65

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    No I haven't and I agree that is much different then someone out in the bush...I have never fished somewhere like that only the latter, so thought it very harsh to leave someone...for where I fish..that could really suck...
     

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