you know, this thread almost took a productive turn there for a second... take your heat, write to your congressional representatives in both houses and to the members of the natural resources committee. oppose 5127 and its house sister bill support 2266, which will require live-fish release and selective gear for everyone including commercials, and require ESA fish to be actually protected. take the heat in your belly and put it to use, guys! The fish need you more. English Pete is who he is and whatever's done is done.