Fin you and Bellows can have your little spat - keep my quotes and items I put in this thread out of it please - I like to stay on topic. There is a philosophy that some anglers have - that if we keep off the water, let Puget Sound heal the fish will come back. I disagree with that, we are never going to see huge returns back to any of our rivers in many systems. When NMFS put out their report on Puget Sound - one aspect of the Steelheads decline was not the CnR fishery. Habitat and Marine Survival are the two major contributors to declining populations in Puget Sound. In 2009 we had 2500 fish back, we fished over that run, four years later we had 8600 fish return, we got good marine survival with the 2/2 salt component of the run, those fish doubled the forecast. So a responsible CnR fishery is not going to drive the fish to extinction.