thanks for the info. i just wanted to add that mistreatment of the tribes and tribal members is not some historical footnote from centuries ago. many of the kids beaten for speaking their language are still alive today. many of the tribal members mistreated during the fishing wars preceding boldt are still alive, and the animosity and racial tensions post-boldt are within the lifetimes of many of us, even if we were very young at the time of boldt. we can have real discussions about our differing opinions on treaty harvest, but we do ourselves in by not at least acknowledging their absolute right to 50% of the fish. why would they even want to have a discussion with us about harvest, recovery, etc when so many of us would be jumping up and down with joy if their rights they fought and bled for were stripped from them? they want discovery passes? it is not that big of a deal to me.