Upgrades to Watermaster?

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  1. Freestone

    Freestone Not to be confused with freestoneangler

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    Ed, my straps-ons are much simpler and aren't really a frame. Picture a curved plate of metal that is shaped to fit the tube. It has a welded on piece of pipe/tubing/oar lock receiver and slots on the top and bottom for straps that go around the tube. There are two plates, one for each side of the boat. They were sold Scadden years go before he started using the WM-type glue-on oars. I haven't tried them on the WM yet and I'm not that the curvature is the same but I'll checkand post photos if they look like they will work.
     
  2. Ed Call

    Ed Call Mumbling Moderator Staff Member

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    Freestone, Happy New Year, but when you say "strap-ons" you totally lose me! I think I've seen some that Outcast makes. Just a curved set of wings out to oarlocks.
     
  3. Alex MacDonald

    Alex MacDonald Dr. of Doomology

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    Soooo...when we all getting together for a WM float? The Cle Elum looked decent the other day when I drove over on I-90!
     
  4. Salmo_g

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    How about this summer during a bikini hatch on the Yakima?

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  5. Ed Call

    Ed Call Mumbling Moderator Staff Member

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    Let's not wait until summer. Sooner and later is better.
     
  6. Alex MacDonald

    Alex MacDonald Dr. of Doomology

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    AS soon as it's above freezing!!
     
  7. Gregg Lundgren

    Gregg Lundgren Now fishing on weekdays too!

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    "A prolific Watermaster hatch should be anticipated sometime early this Spring on the Yak. We understand that this particular hatch is correlated with the March Browns in March/April, but well before the Bikini hatch starts in June/July." I believe I saw this posted on a fly fishing calendar somewhere. Or, maybe I was just day dreaming.
     
  8. Rick Todd

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    Ed-I laughed about boat piled on boat in the garage. You will soon be like me and need a "boat barn" to house all the floating craft. If my wife could see my whole flotilla every day in the garage I might have trouble getting any more boats! I have an even better deal with the Winthrop property as I can divide my boats in two different locations! Rick
     
  9. Ed Call

    Ed Call Mumbling Moderator Staff Member

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    So if I get myself a piece of Peninsula property and another piece of property out eastward then I could have even more boats that the six or seven fishing capable floating craft that I have collected? That is brilliant. How can I ever buy property if I don't stop buying boats? So torn.
     
  10. Freestone

    Freestone Not to be confused with freestoneangler

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    No need for property on the eastside Ed; Alex and will probably be able to find storage room for your boats over here - and for a very low rate too! Plus, we'll be sure to keep them clean with regular baths in the river!
     
  11. Rick Todd

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    I too can provide storage in the Methow Valley pretty cheap! Rick
     
  12. Denny

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    Where did you find them?
     
  13. Wooley Bugger

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    Hello folks, Just joined this site and conversation after doing a web search for Watermaster anchors and wanted to give this topic a bump. I am delighted to see that others are thinking outside the box to make an already great product even better. Love the full frame concept and hope you post up more pic's of your experiments. For the time being I'm trying to duplicate the stock WM anchor with parts I've bought online and local Seattle sources. Curious what other folks think of the standard issue WM system.
     
  14. Brian Miller

    Brian Miller Be vewy vewy qwiet, I'm hunting Cutthwoat Twout

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    The the standard issue WM anchor system works nicely with the anchor load at center-stern. The anchor mount takes just a couple of minutes to set up, is secure, isn't too heavy, and it all packs well into the carry bag. The rode redirect arm from center-stern to the side (port for me, my right hand is my rod hand) is an important feature and works well. But the system should be a little more refined for the amount charged.

    The stanchion tubing ends *do not have the plastic caps as shown in the picture below and* are exposed so I bought rubber crutch feet and wrapped the redirect arm baseplate with Gorilla tape to protect the stern boat tube. An Allen bolt has replaced the big plastic knob to assemble/disassemble the mount and a thumbscrew holds the redirect pully to the arm; all loose. I drilled the thumbscrew and fashioned an attachment ring on the allen wrench so that I can tie all the loose individual pieces together and clip them into one of the cargo net D rings while the mount is assembled and in use.
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    I am trying a swivel pulley on the closest footstrap D-ring to redirect back to the cleat on the seat for better rope management as pictured in the photo of the optional floor but not included in the system. When weighing anchor I don't pull against the D ring pulley but lift from the inbound rope then take up the slack through the front D ring pulley and secure with the jam cleat.
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    As I mentioned earlier I am careful where I will drop anchor in moving water; now taking the advice of someone in the WFF community who wisely suggests that be only where one can safely stand up. I also keep a sheathed river knife on my PFD thats sole purpose is to quickly cut the anchor rope in an emergency.

    *The WM tallback seat upgrade(?) OEM'd by Surf To Summit didn't have the storage bag on the back that the WFF demo standard seat has so* I bought a Surf To Summit Seat Fishing pack which has rod holders that won't hold fly rods so I use them to stow my Measure Net and wading staff; a collapsable Black Diamond Trail Pole.

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    I am not a big fan of the vertically oriented Rod Holder from WM. On my last trip I also found my Scotty rod holder gets in the way and is a line snagger when I stop and stand up to cast. The Water Strider rod holder looks like a much better solution. I have ordered one and may get two if they can be oriented backwards to safely stow a second rod
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  15. fisharama

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    bought a watermaster 8 years ago. I don't mean to cause waves but what a joke! 29 dollar oars retail price? 19 dollar oarlocks? on a 1300 dollar watercraft? For that kind of money, you should not have to upgrade anything! The anchor mount is a engineering nightmere! A 3rd grader could of designed something better! The portability card is WAY overplayed on that website. For those of you who want to put a frame on there watermaster go to FASTUBE.COM. Put a rowing frame on mine for about 45 dollars. Anybody interested in buying one for 750$ plus rowing frame let me know at wallylink@mchsi.com.
     
  16. dcm

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    Brian,

    Very informative post (not to mention all the photos!). I really appreciate you taking the time to share this inforamtion. This will definitely be a big help in my quest to customize my Outlaw Assault.
     
  17. nz trout bum

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    Have been meaning to do this for some time. If the photos attach you will see my modifications. The most important to me as (primarily) a stillwater fisherman is the anchor system. I take a short section of treated 2X4 and contour it to the curvature of the boat. I angle it to my strong hand so that I have a more direct pull. I attach the wood by covering it with Material and flaring it out where it attaches to the raft. I but a boot over the flare to make it look nice and add strength. I then screw on an anchor release such as you use on drift boats. Clean, compact, strong and effective.

    I also modified the oars with larger blades. The backrest is from REI and was designed for paddle boats. I also added a velcro strap angled in such a way I can both strap in a second rod that lays along my side or to hold a rod laying across the apron while moving locations (real trolling although I try not to do that much at all).

    Hope the photos come through. If not perhaps one of you can walk me through the process. Thanks. W View attachment 45495 View attachment 45494 View attachment 45493 View attachment 45492 View attachment 45491 View attachment 45490 View attachment 45496
     
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    Also shows a modification so that the pump stays compact. W
     
  19. troutpocket

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    NZ - love that anchor solution for the WM! You obviously have some skill with the materials and adhesives needed to realize your ideas.
     
  20. Brian Miller

    Brian Miller Be vewy vewy qwiet, I'm hunting Cutthwoat Twout

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    Can you pack up the boat for storage and transport with the anchor mount?
    The foot pump I got with mine has the cord to keep the pump compressed.
    And yeah, someday I'll hunt down some 3 piece 7' oars for my Kodiak
     

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