WDFW Doing Great Things On The Elwha

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  1. Chris Bellows

    Chris Bellows Your Preferred WFF Poster

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    At least they were just hatchery fish. A nice waste of tax payer dollars though.
     
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    My exact thought.

    After sifting though all the hate people were spewing that the dams should not been torn down, a neighbor from the North made an agreeable response....

    " Thats funny, but maybe dammed if they do and dammed if they dont! The wild runs are long since extinct, replaced by inbred hatchery frankenfish that cant survive on their own unless fed pellets (thats why out the hundreds of thousands they let go only a couple of thousand come back). WIld ones would stay in their side streams until the main river clears enough to head downstream (If they can). Hatchery ones dumped into the main river just swim around looking for food pellets until they suffocate in these condition. The river will take generations to recover. And only if through natural repopulation. To have any hope they need to get the rest of the other dam out so the silt can get washed out and the river can stabilize at some point. This gradual release is just prolonging the kill conditions."
     
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    It doesn't bode well for a river when they start to "manage" it. When they abandoned some of the waters silt damaged by Mt. St. Helens they came back stronger than any others in the state. They never learn.....but let's try it again
     
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    I think the fish are smarter than some give credit. They have been around a long time before man came along to make it more difficult for them.
     
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    Removing the dams is a good thing. Of course there are difficulties.
     
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  7. Jim Wallace

    Jim Wallace Smells like low tide

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    This process needs more time. The current wired generation is just too impatient to wait for natural processes to unfold without raising a chorus of whining. More silt was contained in the reservoirs than was estimated. This is a huge undertaking, and one should expect that everything might not go as smoothly as hoped for.
    The timing of the smolt release and their mass suffocation is a bummer. I hope we learn from that mistake. Of course, if one is a wild fish advocate, then this is good evidence that hatchery releases might not be such a good idea. Hell, they even could have waited a couple more years until after the siltation backed off to release any hatchery smolts, but I guess everyone is pushing for "results" to happen asap.
    Maybe the tribes and the state should back off from trying to release any more hatchery smolts until the dam removal project is done and the silt is finished migrating out. Then we might even see that some wild spawning fish have been coming back already, and that might even give them a better starting position, not having to compete with hatchery fish.

    Whining doesn't ever do any good. It just exposes the whiners for what they are.;)

    One can read some really ignorant whines about this dam removal in the letters section of the Peninsula Daily News. They spring up like weeds after any news article concerning the dam removal. And its the same usual suspects that have nothing better to do with their lives than whine and flog dead horses. Same names every whine.
     

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