NFR WDFW gets it right- Wolves part trois

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  1. ribka

    ribka Active Member

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    Its going to be interesting on whether or not they will actually be able to kill all of the problem wolves in that area as they can be elusive creatures.
     
  3. ribka

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    I hoed they use the proceeds from my Discover Pass for fuel for their helicopters.
     
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    Amen brother!
     
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    Can't do that. That money goes into the "general fund".....then disappears. :p
     
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    I hope they get them all before the weekend. I'm camping up there.
     
  7. Old Man

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    Aw, are the poor farmers complaining about a few wolf kills. Probably the same farmers that won't let you access their property to fish and hunt. But use WDFW funds to kill off the pack. Lame, Lame, Lame.
     
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    I remember a time when farmers were man enough to kill their own wolves. Now they wear suits and sit in board rooms.
     
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    Upton O Blind hog fisherman

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    I would hunt those things for free if they'd let me keep the hides. I imagine there are a bunch of us that would volunteer. No, let's bend our knees to the bunny hugging bark eaters and spend a million dollars using helicopters. I guess that's the best Caliwashington can come up with.
     
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    Those ranchers south of the line must feed their cattle better hormones. I have watched that pack on numerous occasions around Christina Lake, ranchers have not complained about calf kills here. I know a few of them with cattle running in the Santa Rosa which is just north of where that rancher was showing off his calfs on the news. Maybe our cows are just meaner.
     
  11. Stonefish

    Stonefish Triploid, Humpy & Seaplane Hater

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    I hope they all escape and take up residence in the Stilly basin.
    There are lots of food sources there, tweakers, gill netters, flossers, poachers and of course the elusive Stilly unicorn.
     
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    They have been using professional hunters for over two weeks and have no success. These are smart creatures. None of the open seasons on wolves have had the kill success that was expected. We just need to have there be an open regulated season on wolves.
    Wolves need a predator (man) just like the rest of the system.
    Wolves are opportunistic feeders, put your stock on thousands of acres of government land and it is just a buffet line for wolves.
    I think I may get in the cattle business, put some animals on BLM land in wolf country pay a pittance for the grazing rights and let the wolves kill them then collect twice what the criiter was worth.
    No effort good profit.
    jesse
     
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    Ah yes, the wolves rear their heads again.

    I am sitting this one out, thanks. But I will have another beer, please.
     
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    Maybe cattlemen south of the line can fed their cattle more drugs and the wolves have become addicted. That is why they like southern calves more than the northern ones.;)
     
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    Wolves really prefer Sheep. They kill them by scores here in Montana.
     
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    Sounds like good advice :)
     
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    Sometimes it's hard to keep your fingers still. You just have to put your two cents in.
     
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    It is a proven fact that 90% of Miontana sheep kills are by jealous wives of sheepherders.
    Jesse
     
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    I have GOT to stop reading the posts by Old Man! I'm starting to agree with him. :p

    Craig
     
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    This was from the post on national news - MSN:

    But director Mitch Friedman told NBC station KING 5 that rancher Bill McIrvine, who lost part of his herd to the pack, "has total responsibility for the problem" for not being as cooperative as other ranchers with programs aimed at keeping cattle and wolves apart. The wildlife department, for its part, "has not been as firm as it needed to be," Friedman added, especially since McIrvine's cattle graze on public land.
    McIrvine, for his part, earlier told KING 5 that he believes groups with "a radical environmental agenda" are conspiring to introduce gray wolves in order "to take our (grazing) lease from us."

    "We have the right to protect our property," McIrvine said, adding that he considered the wildlife department "a rogue government agency" that was essentially saying "we got to sit back and do nothing while the wolves kill our livestock."

    Sitting here there is clearly conflict, and it seems that one guy with a chip on his shoulder did not want to take precautions while others were successful. The article also goes on to say that he's on leased land - assuming it is state or federal. So he gets to graze his cattle on public land at a fraction of the going rate and he's bitching because of predation??? A friend and business partner of mine has a large ranch in Idaho, and admits to being attached to the federal tit and loving it (another has a ranch in E WA that has a perimeter of 115 miles and makes far more off of letting it sit in CRP than ranching / farming on it - but he owns it outright). I just don't get rancher welfare and the sense that they can do what they want on public lands to the exclusion of others.
     
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