the truth is often very unpopular... you can talk intelligently until your head explodes.. that won't change the unthinking truth. as long as people have the "what's in it for me" mentality nothing is going to change.. and it doesn't matter a whole lot whether you are a tribal netter wanting to make an income. or a plunker wanting to take home a trophy nate or a barbless hook swinging liberal from downtown Seattle. if you are not in it for the fish for the sake of the fish instead of your own playtime then you are just another user group, maybe your use is less harmful than everyone else's but just a user none the less. want to be a force for change? go get your doctorate in fisheries sciences and get hired by WDFW and work your way into an important position. WDFW only listens to WDFW.