I used to think the knot I use is the double turle, but I learned here online a few years ago that it isn't. But it's sorta' like it. Very simple to tie, and quite strong, comparing favorably with the improved clinch knot. What I like about it, aside from being simple, is the tippet projects forward straight out the eye of the hook. Works equally well for up or down-eyed hooks.
I used to think the knot I use is the double turle, but I learned here online a few years ago that it isn't. But it's sorta' like it. Very simple to tie, and quite strong, comparing favorably with the improved clinch knot. What I like about it, aside from being simple, is the tippet projects forward straight out the eye of the hook. Works equally well for up or down-eyed hooks.
Duncan loop or Orvis/Becker knot. Duncan loop takes a little more time than I would like, but the Orvis knot is super fast to tie and some say it measures in at close to 100%.
I'm partial to the Canoe Man's loop. It takes less time to tie than the mono loop and less material if you end up switching up flies alot. I think they're comparable in strength but have no hard proof of that fact.
When I fished for them fish I used a improved Clinch Knot. Worked for me. Besides the way I can screw up a knot I always went to the simplest knot to tie.
I almost always used a george harvey knot,But as I get older that knot is starting to become a pain in the ass to tye, I'll try useing the no slip mono knot
I only use three knots total. Fly to tippet is a clinch knot, I don't like the "improved" version. Tippet to leader I only use a triple surgeon. Depending on my mood, I use a non slip mono on certain flies. Upturned eyes is usually one of those certain ones.
The double turle as shown on the perinne fly boxes, it ties to the head of the fly and comes straight out the eye. If you test it at home versus the other knots, you will find it is king. The palomar or other doubled over tippet knots will do as well......
Salmo,
After looking at a couple of on line knot turorials I've concluded that what I've always tied as a Double Turle knot may not be the real thing, but I've tied and fished it for many years on both turned-up and turned-own eyes without any problems. I learned to tie it from a sticker on the back of an old Perrine aluminum fly box.
I tie the Turle knot when fishing dries, particularly small ones to avoid crushing the hackles with my fingers. Then use the Improved Clinch for everything else. I like the idea of the line pulling straight through the eye, though I don't have any evidence this helps with a successful hook set. This summer I am playing with slip and non-slip loops to see if they improve my nymphing at all.
It was the online videos that showed me that my traditional knot apparently isn't a double turle. The knot I use was shown to me by Dawn Holbrook at one of the WFC's fly tying classes shortly after Roy Patrick died. The knot is dead simple, consisting of two overhand knots around the standing line, the second on top of the first, and equals or exceeds the strength of my blood knots that join my tippet to the rest of my leader.
But in all seriousness, it's a clinch for most of my flies, a loop for anything that I want to really wiggle or jig (e.g. clousers or anything with dumbell eyes)
I always loop knot anything that I'm going to swim or swing. I only use clinch or "tight" style knots on dry's and nymphs but I do loop knots on san juan worms and big nymphs from time to time.
I use the San Diego jam knot for streamers because it is very fast to tie and stronger than either clinch knot.
For a loop knot I like the perfection knot because is faster to tie and stronger than the none slip loop. I test
my knots by tying the knots in competition with each loop knot or clinch knot to determine the winner.
Loops for loose movement, clinch or Uni when keeping tension is the need.
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