And it looks like I've struck a cord mr sr. member jason b. What are you a fly shop employee. Are you the cool guy that pretends to be the trout bumb while you sell your soul slinging $800 rods to rich preppies looking for something to waste thier money on? Or are you the guy that worships him. "I wish I could sell fly rods all day and not fish all day like you." Actually I love my fly shop guys. They taught me how to cast. How do you not love the person who teaches you that.