best paragraph i've ever read on this forum. can't wait to see the church of science respond. of course, it's not possible to have a rounded world-view without the kind faith you reference, because there's too much to know for any person to experience themselves. we have to pick and choose what we really care to know for ourselves through experience and personal observation, and even then it is mostly chasing the wind. which, to me, has always been the best reason to leave room for the possibility that i am wrong, the experts are only partly right, and the person i am currently debating with most likely has something to offer that is useful and at least partly true.