You dont HAVE to spend 30+k........

Discussion in 'Fly Fishing Forum' started by IveofIone, Jul 18, 2011.

  1. IveofIone

    IveofIone Active Member

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    After my old '93 Explorer was totaled a few years ago the insurance company sold it back to me for $300. It only had minor cosmetic damage on one side and with $700 worth of new tires it was quite a steal. I drove it for 2 more years while keeping my eyes open for a later model. Then during the Cash For Clunkers mania a couple of years ago when everyone was bailing out of their older paid for rigs and getting new loans of 60 to 84 months of payments I found this beauty for $5700. A one owner with low miles driven by an old maid school teacher and I'm sure it had probably never been off road much less in low range.

    I made a guy a great deal on my old one for $1,000 and then did my usual preventive maintenance on the 2000 model. It got new Pirelli Scorpion ATR load range D tires, KYB gas shocks, new battery, stainless thermostat and fresh antifreeze, new hoses, drive belt, plug wires and plugs, a K&N air filter, new wipers front and rear, Mobil 1 synthetic oil with the proper Motorcraft filter, the torque converter flushed and the bands adjusted(they were near perfect) and had it laser aligned. After 2 years of use it appears to be perfect with no oil use, runs quiet, starts easily in 0 degree temps and drives straight and true with no driveability issues.

    The old one was 4wd with manual hubs and the newer AWD with 4wd and low range is a vast improvement. Low range has only been needed on a couple of the more severe lake roads I use in summer. I built the custom roof rack to hold my South Fork and it works far better than the factory setup.

    So far so good and all this for under $7k---90% of a new rig for around 25% of the cost and no payments. I have a record of every gallon of gas that has gone through it and the past 4 tanks have been 20mpg even, 15.7, 18.1 and 18.7. Not bad given the extent of mountain driving I do.

    There are so many nice rigs of this vintage out there and damned few of them have ever even been off road. That 5 or 6 thousand dollars that some people are putting out a year in monthly payments might buy a complete paid for rig this year and next year you can use the extra cash on something fun. Well, that's how I do it anyway.....

    Ive
     
  2. Paul Voelker

    Paul Voelker Member

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    Very nice. Most people don't put the money into their rigs as far as servicing all the moving parts on a regular basis like they should. If you take care of a vehicle it will last a lot longer and will have less problems.
     
  3. jessejames

    jessejames Flyslinger

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    Ive you are the master of car care when you do get rid of a rig someone else always gets a good deal..
    jesse
     
  4. SpokaneFisherman

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    Some of us just like to support big business and keep the wheels of commerce turning. :rofl:
     
  5. Josh

    Josh dead in the water

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    I was actually looking seriously at old Explorers a few years back, but then I got lucky and bought my father in laws extremely well cared for '98 4runner. Hell of a deal in my book.

    That having been said, there are plenty of people in the world who don't mind spending $30k or more on a new rig. They have the money and want the vehicle. Case in point was my father in law. The reason he sold the 4runner was that he decided that he'd worked long and hard enough and finally deserved the brand new tricked out pickup that he'd never been able to own in the past. So he bought a new Tundra. Fine by me, guy's worked his ass off supporting his family and raised two wonderful daughters (one far more wonderful than the other in my book). He wants a new truck, then he should get one.
     
  6. Salmo_g

    Salmo_g Active Member

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    Ive,

    Yer just plain anti-American with your lack of consumptive spending. The American economy survives only if people buy shit they don't need and dispose of perfectly good stuff. Haven't you seen the video about "Stuff?" If everyone had spending habits like yours, Ford would stop manufacturing Explorers, and then where would you be? See? In order for your strategy of economic living to succeed, you depend on the profligate spendthrift habits of the majority of red-blooded up-to-their-neck-in-debt-Americans.

    I confess, I usually buy new, but then I drive it for 10 or more years. Click & Clack said that strategy makes the initial purchase price pretty much irrelevant.

    Sg
     
  7. Gary Thompson

    Gary Thompson dirty dog

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    Good for you Ive
    New is not always better.
     
  8. Old Man

    Old Man Just an Old Man

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    That's not a fishing rig. It's to damn clean.
     
  9. Be Jofus G

    Be Jofus G Banned or Parked

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    You're going to like those Scorpion ATR s. I have a set on my ford. Great tires.
     
  10. cuponoodle breakfast

    cuponoodle breakfast Active Member

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    I like it. Solid rig at a very reasonable price. That's value.

    The truth is, a lot of people don't have the money and buy a fancy truck anyway.
     
  11. Steve Call

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    I'm with you. Can't understand buying a new car. The economics just don't pencil out.

    But, I've got to agree with Old Man, it looks too dam clean to be a fishing vehicle!
     
  12. papafsh

    papafsh Piscatorial predilection

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    Ive,
    I totally agree with your principle on vehicle ownership. My ol' 1995 Explorer, not as sorted out as your rig, suits me just fine. That's a real nice vheicle you have there.

    LB
     
  13. Loren Jensen

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    Ford Explorers/ Rangers are great rigs. A number of my family members own either one or the other, and usually use them as a work truck. After looking at Toyotas for a year, I found this baby, sitting for sale at the Ford Lot in town. The guy was asking $2k. She had 202k miles, and $1600 in brand new parts. I told my grandpa (45 year auto body man for Ford) and he talked to the owner, who is a mechanic at the Ford Lot, and one of my Gramp's old friends.

    So we ended up buying it for $1800 bucks. The only thing I've done is my preventative maintenece (oil, filters, thermo, etc). And I also bought Cooper Discoverer STT tires for it, along with new wheels. We just replaced the clutch not too long ago, and I run Castrol Syntec Blend in it. 224k miles and still running strong.

    Toyota trucks that are in half this condition and older, go for $4k or more. Doesn't make sense to me when you can make any rig last a long time.

    When I bought it-
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    Picked up a canopy for free-
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    And she has been a ton of places, including this mud hole I shouldn't have hit.
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    Ive, I agree with you 100%
     
  14. Josh

    Josh dead in the water

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    I've got essentially the exact same truck that I also bought used a few years back. I will say that I'm really jealous of you having a canopy with side opening windows. I frequently wish my canopy (which is a nice canopy) had them.
     
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    just a few FYI's for you Explorer guys.
    i have 2, a 91 & 98. Keep a close eye on your transmissions. they are a known problem for Fords.
    Do a complete tranny flush every 60,000 if possible. and totally agree on the stainless thermostat. trust me. went down when i was fishing the Spokane and limped back to a repair shop on that one.
    If for some reason it just wont start and you cant figure whats wrong, check your Crank Sensor.
    that one cost me over 500$ once.
    if you get a little noise in the timing chain area, have the tensioner looked at.
    i could go on and on but those are the major ones.
     
  16. bearclaw

    bearclaw Banned or Parked

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    i shouldn't post this but i've made one of the biggest mistakes of my life by trading away my paid for new 2004 F250 super duty Lariat FX4 super crew with the 6.0 diesel and the injector nightmare motor. i bought it 2 days before my move from CA to AK. drove it 2 yrs and finally was fed up with ford after 12 yrs and 13 warranty trips to the shop having 2 fords previously. that's warranty trips. Before that i was driving a nissan pu for 13 yrs and made only 2 warranty trips driving 2 trucks. Newer is nice unless you have to drive 2 hrs to the nearest ford dealer and spend over 1k in hotel, flights, or car rental experiences like i did with my new '04 diesel. i got rid of the truck to get a boat and to downgrade vehicles. now i have neither. downgraded into a '93 gmc sierra with 240,000 miles. i loved the way the motor sounded and ran. Drove it for 2 yrs before finally needed a new tranny but it ran smooth and i actually miss that truck and used it as a work truck before i got into another newer rig. '04. F150 only this truck from when i purchased it in '08 has ran flawless since. I's a beautiful truck no doubt, Lariat, super crew with a moon roof and power everthing including the slider. It's past due for a tranny flush but i'm getting killed on the interest. Feeling that i went from major league, to the poor house '93 model i actually missed a newer running truck. never drove anything that old before. my credit wasn't all that bad and i should have fought to get the interest rate down. 19%. i've made 25 pmts of 462.00 and i still owe 14k. that's disgusting but that's me. stupid sometimes. So i went from 0 monthly pmts to 462.00

    one thing i don't like about the truck is the front bucket seats. makes rough for the dog that she can't lay down. I'm thinking of just volunteering to surrender it and live with my consequences. when i get my 20k, go out and buy a nice used sierra or other pick up that has a canopy and pay under 10k maybe 8 or 9k and with the rest of the money grab a used boat to fish rivers and lakes and save the rest. i don't care about driving a new truck anymore. i had my chance to keep one but was disgusted. just hope there is a good truck out there when i get that check. i'll be without a truck if they repo it in August, but it won't be the worst decision i have ever made
     

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