Leland gave me a fish!! now I'm inspired!!!

#81
Another way to deal with your fave spot.
Once on another forum one of my fave spots was up for discussion.
I then replied to every other thread on page one and the first one on page two. This pushed "my" spot onto the second page and it was never commented on again.

That's a forum Ninja move right there, bet you no one noticed either.
 

ryfly

Addicted to flyfishing
#82
There are other 'secret' beaches within a 10 minute drive from PNP that don't have the easy access that PNP has. It's a good thing people have been going crazy about PNP. I think I might need to start hitting it hard.
 

Dan Nelson

Hiker, Fisher, Writer, Bum
#84
Everyone loves to claim how it does no harm, which is complete bullshit, but really and seriously, what good can possibly come of it?
What good can come of it? Perhaps the preservation of the very future of sport fishing for anadromous fish.


I'm always amazed at the remarkable shortsightedness of so many passionate enthusiasts of any given sport/activity. You love to fish, you want to protect the fishery, but you want it all to yourself.

Tell me, did you bother to go to Olympia today to attend the Senate Natural Resources & Parks committee hearing? No?
https://app.leg.wa.gov/CMD/Handler....umentcontent&documentId=TQjgnJB8jxE&att=false

Honestly neither did I —and that's a problem. I convinced myself I was too busy. But I did write a letter, and made my opinions heard that way. But the honest, hard fact is that not enough anglers are concerned enough to get out and lobby for our sport: Instead we sit at our computers and bitch about there being too many other anglers are our personal/secret locations. BULLSHIT! The reality is, if we truly want to protect our fishing resources we need MORE ANGLERS — anglers who are passionate enough to raise a hue and cry in the halls of the policymakers to ensure our fish and fishing habitats are protected.

I love to have prime fishing sites to myself, too, but I also welcome new anglers —and I willing share (online even) information about where to go for quality fishing. Why? Simply to encourage more anglers to become passionate enough about the sport that some of them turn into advocates. We NEED advocates. Without them, none of us will be fishing for anadromous fish much longer!

Flame away at me if you like, but I will do what I can to encourage more angling advocates even if it means your "Secret" beach has a few extra anglers on it for a weekend or two.
 
#85
Dan,

First i really dont equate naming beaches on the web to a conservation issue. Its much more of a standing room issue. Im not sure how much you hit the beaches but its a real problem.

Second, while i can respect your opinion, and always enjoy your posts, i simply cannot disagree more. As i believe i have seen chris bellows bring up before, i really dont think there is a connection between increased angling pressure and increased conservation support. .

More anglers is not the answer to any problem we face. Period.

That said i believe i am very forthcoming with info when people seek me out privately. A fact many on this board can vouch for.




What good can come of it? Perhaps the preservation of the very future of sport fishing for anadromous fish.


I'm always amazed at the remarkable shortsightedness of so many passionate enthusiasts of any given sport/activity. You love to fish, you want to protect the fishery, but you want it all to yourself.

Tell me, did you bother to go to Olympia today to attend the Senate Natural Resources & Parks committee hearing? No?
https://app.leg.wa.gov/CMD/Handler....umentcontent&documentId=TQjgnJB8jxE&att=false

Honestly neither did I —and that's a problem. I convinced myself I was too busy. But I did write a letter, and made my opinions heard that way. But the honest, hard fact is that not enough anglers are concerned enough to get out and lobby for our sport: Instead we sit at our computers and bitch about there being too many other anglers are our personal/secret locations. BULLSHIT! The reality is, if we truly want to protect our fishing resources we need MORE ANGLERS — anglers who are passionate enough to raise a hue and cry in the halls of the policymakers to ensure our fish and fishing habitats are protected.

I love to have prime fishing sites to myself, too, but I also welcome new anglers —and I willing share (online even) information about where to go for quality fishing. Why? Simply to encourage more anglers to become passionate enough about the sport that some of them turn into advocates. We NEED advocates. Without them, none of us will be fishing for anadromous fish much longer!

Flame away at me if you like, but I will do what I can to encourage more angling advocates even if it means your "Secret" beach has a few extra anglers on it for a weekend or two.
 

DimeBrite

MA-9 Beach Stalker
#86
Not Like

It is completely unnecessary to name specific beaches online to encourage interest in saltwater fly fishing. A well written report informs others about the opportunity and teaches the tactics. The rest they will learn on their own with modest commitment.

Flame away at me if you like, but I will do what I can to encourage more angling advocates even if it means your "Secret" beach has a few extra anglers on it for a weekend or two.
 
#87
Here's how I see it in this specific situation: Leland contributes more to this board with his vast knowledge of Puget Sound fisheries than the majority combined. Him naming a VERY well known beach (hell, I've even fished there) should create absolutely zero waves amongst the masses. I'm failing to see anywhere that the rock to stand on is mentioned. All of this bullshit will only serve to drive him away from here. It would be a shame to lose someone with the amount of knowledge....kinda like on Westfly when Gene Trump stopped posting. The guy flat out knows how to fish and was driven away by the same type of bullshit.

Now, as far as information given is concerned, once again, I'm failing to see the exact specifics. It's kind of like if someone were to post up a report on the Deschutes near Maupin....nothing about what current seam to hit or what rock to stand, etc etc etc. All of that shit comes with experience, as it should. But I never see anyone (on other sites) complain about that type of report.

I could totally understand if it was a very small, out of the way location but this seems a little ridiculous to me.

Cheers.
 
#88
If a nobody showed up on someone elses report where they omitted the location and posted pics of said location i would say something.
The fact that it was posted by a big name in northwest fly fishing means i am supposed to act differently?

I would argue that someone as notorious around here as Leland has a much higher impact on people when he posts a report. Flat out there are a lot of people who will fish a location just because he has been known to frequent the area.

If contributing to the saltwater forum with all this knowledge also includes posting pics of my local beaches then no thanks. I can learn the proper way to select a drift wood pillow from someone else.

Its funny, I have been run out of several bead vs.swing threads because of the fact that i dont fish steelhead, but there are an awful lot of opinions being put out there by folks ive never seen on these beaches, and i am on them damn near every day.
 
#89
Its funny, I have been run out of several bead vs.swing threads because of the fact that i dont fish steelhead, but there are an awful lot of opinions being put out there by folks ive never seen on these beaches, and i am on them damn near every day.


fair enough.

I'll still stand by my post (especially regarding that specific location)...


Here's the thing though. You, fishing those beaches every day, know a hell of a lot more about when and how exactly to fish them than anyone who just shows up on "x" day during "x" tide...

That's where my comparison comes into play....yeah, I don't like seeing more people on my "homewaters" (the D), but it's a damn popular fishery and the majority of people out there really have no clue what the hell they're doing, so it's easy enough to catch fish right behind them if necessary (hell, if I came down to your homewaters, I'm sure you'd have a ball picking up fish right behind me)...