(NFR) If Santa ever did exist, he's dead now...

Steve Buckner

Mother Nature's Son
#1
As a result of an overwhelming lack of requests, and with research help from that renowned scientific journal SPY magazine (January, 1990) - I am pleased to present the annual scientific inquiry into Santa Claus. [Spy Magazine no longer exists. So how did versions of this story wind up on the Internet? Actually, this story first originated by an email from Rod Morgan , Systems and Integration Office IRM/OPS/SIO , U. S. Department of State , who sent an email out in 1987. Though computers at the Department of Stare were networked, they were not yet connected to the Intenet. The U.S. Navy, on the otherhand. was conncected to the internet. As it turned out, one of Rod's friends had a son in the Navy who liked the story. So out into the intenet the story went! From there, this tale has grown almost as fast as the net! We decided to give the story some of our own modifications and add some graphics. Thanks to Rod Morgan for getting this out to the world!]


1) No known species of reindeer can fly. BUT there are 300,000 species of
living organisms yet to be classified, and while most of these are insects
and germs, this does not COMPLETELY rule out flying reindeer which only
Santa has ever seen.

2) There are 2 billion children (persons under 18) in the world. BUT since
Santa doesn't (appear) to handle the Muslim, Hindu, Jewish and Buddhist
children, that reduces the workload to 15% of the total - 378 million
according to Population Reference Bureau. At an average (census)rate of 3.5
children per household, that's 91.8 million homes. One presumes there's at
least one good child in each.

3) Santa has 31 hours of Christmas to work with, thanks to the different
time zones and the rotation of the earth, assuming he travels east to
west(which seems logical). This works out to 822.6 visits per second. This
is to say that for each Christian household with good children, Santa has
1/1000th of a second to park, hop out of the sleigh, jump down the chimney,
fill the stockings, distribute the remaining presents under the tree, eat
whatever snacks have been left, get back up the chimney, get back into the
sleigh and move on to the next house. Assuming that each of these 91.8
million stops are evenly distributed around the earth (which, of course, we
know to be false but for the purposes of our calculations we will accept),
we are now talking about .78 miles per household, a total trip of 75-1/2
million miles, not counting stops to do what most of us must do at least
once every 31 hours, plus feeding and etc. This means that Santa's sleigh
is moving at 650 miles per second, 3,000 times the speed of sound. For
purposes of comparison, the fastest man- made vehicle on earth, the Ulysses
space probe, moves at a poky 27.4 miles per second - a conventional
reindeer can run, tops, 15 miles per hour.

4) The payload on the sleigh adds another interesting element. Assuming
that each child gets nothing more than a medium-sized lego set (2 pounds),
the sleigh is carrying 321,300 tons, not counting Santa, who is invariably
described as overweight. On land, conventional reindeer can pull no more
than 300 pounds. Even granting that "flying reindeer" (see point #1) could
pull TEN TIMES the normal anoint, we cannot do the job with eight, or even
nine. We need 214,200 reindeer. This increases the payload - not even
counting the weight of the sleigh - to 353,430 tons. Again, for comparison
- this is four times the weight of the Queen Elizabeth.

5) 353,000 tons traveling at 650 miles per second creates enormous air
resistance - this will heat the reindeer up in the same fashion as
spacecrafts re-entering the earth's atmosphere. The lead pair of reindeer
will absorb 14.3 QUINTILLION joules of energy. Per second. Each. In short,
they will burst into flame almost instantaneously, exposing the reindeer
behind them, and create deafening sonic booms in their wake.The entire
reindeer team will be vaporized within 4.26 thousandths of a second. Santa,
meanwhile, will be subjected to centrifugal forces 17,500.06 times greater
than gravity. A 250-pound Santa (which seems ludicrously slim)would be
pinned to the back of his sleigh by 4,315,015 pounds of force.

In conclusion - If Santa ever DID deliver presents on Christmas Eve, he's
dead now.
 

Luv2flyfish

Another Flyfisherman
#3
Steve - I know for a fact that you had an absolute HAY DAY with all those facts and figures.....since you're a facts and figures kinda guy. Dude, go drink some wine and eat some turkey or something.

I am striving to be politically correct....so Happy Holidays everyone.
 

Jim Wallace

Smells like low tide.
#4
This dude, Rod Morgan, he sounds like he was one helluva bureaucrat, coming up with that shizz! I'll betcha he got a promotion out of that!:rofl:

Jimbo
 

Steve Buckner

Mother Nature's Son
#6
Hey Bird,
I have to admit, I first read this well before the "internet" was developed while I was in college working toward my B.S. in Applied Physics. And as you point out, got quite a kick out of the facts and figures...And just when I was sure there was a Santa, my hopes and dreams were dashed...;)

Merry Christmas & Happy Holidays to Everyone

Luv2flyfish said:
Steve - I know for a fact that you had an absolute HAY DAY with all those facts and figures.....since you're a facts and figures kinda guy. Dude, go drink some wine and eat some turkey or something.

I am striving to be politically correct....so Happy Holidays everyone.
 
#7
Santa exists in the heart of every parent, grandparent, godparent, big brother, big sister, and philanthropist of whatever ethnicity, gender, or religion ... it is the spirit of giving, especially giving to those younger, less fortunate, in need (of material things, love, or just surprises) ... the true meaning of xmas.
 

Tim Cottage

Formerly tbc1415
#8
While I did enjoy reading through the facts and figures presented here and had no trouble believing them, I must disagree with the conclusion.

The only acceptable conclusion that I can find in all this is that Santa and his Sled and his flying reindeer are Magic.

I mean, what is Christmas without Magic and without Magic what fun is life on earth or any where else?

Certainly magic has a lot to do with fishing, everyone knows that. Even Physics majors.

Merry Christmas
TC
 

papafsh

Piscatorial predilection
#9
Steve,
Get a grip, dude!
First of all Santa is not a fact, he or it, is a concept. A story, if you will, to delight children and please grown-up's.
Subjecting the same, to so-called facts, is completely un-worthy.
Who are you trying to impress, who are you trying to get even with, your parents?
Santa is, Fantasy.
Have you become so jaded that you feel compelled to tear down the wonder of Santa?
Shame, shame on you Steve Buckner!
I here-by grant you the Scrooge award for 2005! ;)

LB
 

Old Man

Just an Old Man
#11
papafsh said:
Steve,
Get a grip, dude!
First of all Santa is not a fact, he or it, is a concept. A story, if you will, to delight children and please grown-up's.
Subjecting the same, to so-called facts, is completely un-worthy.
Who are you trying to impress, who are you trying to get even with, your parents?
Santa is, Fantasy.
Have you become so jaded that you feel compelled to tear down the wonder of Santa?
Shame, shame on you Steve Buckner!
I here-by grant you the Scrooge award for 2005! ;)

LB
If Santa's a fantasy,so is fishing for Steelhead.:p :p :p :p :p :p :p
 

Steve Buckner

Mother Nature's Son
#13
Papafish...if only someone would have told me the truth when I was younger...I didn't figure it out until after doing the math when I was 25...:rofl: :rofl: :rofl:

papafsh said:
Steve,
Get a grip, dude!
First of all Santa is not a fact, he or it, is a concept. A story, if you will, to delight children and please grown-up's.
Subjecting the same, to so-called facts, is completely un-worthy.
Who are you trying to impress, who are you trying to get even with, your parents?
Santa is, Fantasy.
Have you become so jaded that you feel compelled to tear down the wonder of Santa?
Shame, shame on you Steve Buckner!
I here-by grant you the Scrooge award for 2005! ;)

LB
 

Steve Buckner

Mother Nature's Son
#14
Bugnuts,
I think that it was after learning that the guy in the red suit was hoax that I became so skeptical about folks that told stories...like the ones GW tells!;)

Merry Christmas!

bugnuts said:
He took a break from trashing GW and turned his attention to the big defenseless guy in the red suit...must be hell to be a liberal. :p;)
 

Jerry Daschofsky

Moderator
Staff member
#15
What? Santa doesn't exist? Why yes the hell he does. Just that he has "helpers" now. Well back in the day, he did it himself (of course, alot smaller area). Now he has the men in brown do it for him (and the other carriers too of course ;) ). Hell, I did over 1,200 deliveries this week (by myself mind you, no helper). Factor in all the other companies, and it's quite easily done. Called subcontracting. Everyone is doing it (even Santa).

So don't knock the man in the red suit. He just delivers the packages now in many other colors. ;)