Swap 1st Timer's Swap?

Discussion in 'Fly Tying' started by cmtundra, Feb 25, 2005.

  1. Davy

    Davy Active Member

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    Hi Loren, unfortunantly yes it is closed, we are half done.

    Perhaps we will have a 2nd Timers Swap :thumb:

    Hmmmmmmmm :ray1:

    I am so busy over the next 3-4 months though that I doubt I could do the swapmeister thing again till the late fall-.

    davy
     
  2. atomic dog

    atomic dog Jive Turkey

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    I finished my flies this morning. Hopefully I'll have them in the mail on monday or tuesday. I'm having a tough time finding a lead-lined mailing envelope so we'll see.

    I had never tried tying hare's ear nymphs before, and I also tried tying a smaller size than I'm used to (sz 14) so some of them definitely fall into the UAF category. I think they'll still catch fish, though...I hope. :hmmm:
     
  3. Davy

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    I'll warn my mail lady to handle your package with great care , :rofl: :rofl:



    :beer2:

    davy
     
  4. Davy

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    Hellow swappers :beer2:

    Mr. Atomic Dogs flys arrived yesterday- and belive me they are "green" :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:

    I always thought that was just the movies --but that Hanford stuff really must glow green.

    J/K, he tyed us up some "choice" olive green hares ears. :cool:

    Heres the list as of this morning ( Wednesday ,23rd)

    1. Cmtundra -- IN

    2. Islander- IN

    3. Grid Kid -

    4. CraigMTB -

    5.Passman -

    7.Sinktip - IN

    8.Tanner

    9.Monique- IN

    10. John James -

    11. Romko -

    12. Atomic Dog- IN

    13. ibn- IN ( need more IBN, it's Skwala season and I went fishin) :( sorry :thumb:

    Thats about it from swap central, I'll be watchin for "goodies" from those in bold.The rest of you can go fishin.

    Except Sinktip, if I can't go, you can't go. :clown: :beer1:

    Back to burning my eyeballs on #22 micro mayflys and lightning bugs. :eek: :eek: :eek:

    And now I have to tie some "white" Hares Ear's too. People in California fish with some strange stuff- yes indeed, very strange. I think they just use the flys to hold the bait on longer. :rofl: :rofl:

    TL everyone - Davy ,the Swaporama
     
  5. cmtundra

    cmtundra New Member

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    1/2 in!

    Davy -Lemme' know if ya' wanna send summa da' boys over to the slackers' n' givem' a little incentive....if ya' know whud I mean. :p

    JK..y'all have a few more days before we send in "da boys".

    In all seriousness....This swap has been a good learning experience for me. I tie my flies in a much more disciplined way now. I'd have to say that my fly tying has improved more this month than it has since I first started tying. hoorah!
    Since tying my swap flies, I've done 10 #14 BWO Duns; 6 #16 Elk Hair Caddis; 6 #12 Adams; 6 # 12 Adams Parachutes. These are all patterns I never tied before. Tying multiple flies of the same pattern really does help you improve. I'd heard several people say that, but I never actually did it until the swap made me do it.
    I've also decided to somewhat master the "traditional" flies first & actually take the time to tie all those "beginner" flies in the front of my fly tying book -you know the ones that are supposed to teach you all the basic skills you need to be a good tyer. Before, I always skipped that "boring" stuff so I could tie up some flashy salmon or steelhead fly. Salmon & steelhead flies are fun & pretty & all, but there really aren't too many rules for tying them. After all, they really don't have to look like much of anything. So the next few weeks I'll be tying away on my new vise all the golden oldies & then I'll move onto some bigger and better things. It's been a fun trip so far.

    Thanks again Davy, and oh yeah-I liked the pics you posted of your wife & you on the Yak. Hope I can have my wife as a fishing partner when I retire...she's not my fishing partner yet, but I'm working on it. Anybody know any good Jedi mind-control tricks?
     
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    flies are done just gotta send em.
     
  7. Davy

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    :thumb: :beer2: I'll drink to that !!

    davy
     
  8. Old Man

    Old Man Just an Old Man

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    Hey Davy, Aren't mine in. :confused: Those ugly green flies with the black bead head.

    Jim
     
  9. Davy

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    I am confident they are all trying hard and will finish. This has gotta be tough on some of the folks. I really appreciate the tribulations you ALL have gone thru.

    Probably don't know how happy that makes a darn near born tyer and teacher like me feel,, but anyway==

    Yes, I knew it would help all of you- when I used to teach my classes- "homework" involved tying preferably 12 of the previous classes pattern and mounting them in "order" so the students could see the learning curve and I could help them improve while at the same time improving themselves.

    I often go back and tye my old traditional quill drys or other " normal" patterns- just to keep my skills.

    My first commercial order "ever" was for 12 dzn #12 and 14 Ginger Quills- from a guide and driftboat dealer in Southern Oregon- I still go back and tye those things every so often.

    I could take issue with the "simple" steelhead thing but not here. It's all what you put into it. For some, this sport is all about the solitude, the sporting aspect, the casting, in some cases, the image, family time, the water- and a myriad of other reasons, but for me it is about the Flys and their dressings.

    She is my main fishin partner and really is the one that "wants" to get out and fish ( warmer months only). Life doesn't get any better than the days she and I spend fishing together. I wish my health was better ( and hers too) -I would row her around more often. She gets as excited about any 10" trout today as she did back in the day when she first caught a fish- let alone a hog of some type- last spring when she got that big ol Yak pig she was literally crying with joy when we netted it. :thumb:

    And I won't even get started about the first time she saw and fished the McCloud in California. :thumb:

    :ray1: I know of no "tricks" just gotta happen, can't force it.

    Jeez, that took alot of work and now am in need of a drink refill , :beer2: :thumb:

    ( and besides, atleast some of this post should earn me some "home" points, so maybe I can buy that new 17' driftboat ) - :thumb: :thumb: :thumb:

    thanks for the encouraging the team

    TL/ Davy
     
  10. cmtundra

    cmtundra New Member

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    Nahh, I didn't really mean it to come out that way. I couldn't tie half the steelhead flies you do and none of them with the same quality. It just seems there's a lot more room for "artistic license" with salmon & steelhead flies, & "artistic license" is something I can wait to use until I've at least established myself in the basics. When I first started Flyfishing and tying in Alaska, 90% of what I fished for was salmon. Coming from a gear background, I knew that people caught salmon on everything form a piece of yarn, to a spin&glow, to a herring, to a bead, or a corkie -in a wide variety of unnatural colors. So, when I started tying, I tied all kinds of crazy self-made inventions that were mostly gawd-awful ugly but I didn't think so at the time. I'd tied a bunch of flies, but I really hadn't learned anything except what I'd already learned the first day -how to wrap chenille and palmer hackle crudely. A couple of those flies actually performed well & I still keep them around, but mostly I've thrown them in the trash. So, I finally came to the realization that I'd jumped head first into artistic expression but had never paid my dues to learn how to actually tie a decent fly. So, here I am -ready to tie all those traditional flies which I'd previously always bought at the shop because they were too complicated. I'm sure I'll tie up some steelhead flies soon enough, but I've got enough for a little while. So, there's the philisophical tale of one fly-tyers journey.
     
  11. Davy

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    I knew that :D :thumb: just had to say sumthin anyway

    I mean ,yes, a piece of yarn tyed on the front of the hook can be an effective "fly" for steelhead. Kinda tells yuh how "smart" they are huh? :ray1: :ray1: :ray1:

    Spend an extra 10 seconds and roughly tye on some bronze mallard over the yarn and you have a "spey" fly.

    And if you add some JC under the shank you have a "yarn spey ala davy" pattern. hey?? hmmm,,,,,

    Always glad to help , LOL

    davy
     
  12. Davy

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    Maybe sometime we'll sit down and tye up so ol' Quill Gordons together. ;) Can't get much more traditional than that.

    davy
     
  13. Romko

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    Davy

    I think you'll get mine by Monday - they were in the mail Wednesday, and Priority sould make it relatively fast.
    So don't be scared of those salmon hairwings on doubles. + There is a tube fly to tease you ;)
     
  14. Davy

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    :thumb: Sweet !!!

    My tube fly tying stuff is laying over there behind me buried somewhere- I'll get to them by fall - :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:

    thank you--much appreciated

    davy
     
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    A couple more shots of submissions

    Old Man's Woven flys are beauteees-
    Big Thanks to Jim :thumb:

    It's kinda strange how I went to California for a cpl days and strangely theres only 5 or 6 of Monique's Elk Hair Caddis' left in her basket-- :confused: :confused: :rofl:

    Perhaps I should quit giving website suggestions to Sinktip. :hmmm: :hmmm:

    Davy :beer2:
     

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