I want to do some fly fishing photography...

Josh

dead in the water
#16
Semantic "art" arguments aside. Thanks to everyone who has responded. I'll send out some PM's with my contact info and you can give me a call when you've got some extra space to fill.
 
#17
After you get paid as a photographer for a few years, some of the joy goes out of the work. It's a cool job, but it's still a job. But one of the aspects that never gets old is being able to give images to people who appreciate them. That ends up being a lot more important than any stuck-up art gallery posturing and a lot more satisfying than a paycheck.
Two of the truest things I've heard in quite a while.
 
#18
Well Josh, I don't know how old you are, but there is wisdom in your words.
There is a whole lot more to life than money.
The mist rising from a spring creek on a cold morning, fat trout slurping tiny bugs close to the overhanging grass.
Capture the moment on film, trap the memory to be shared forever.
Good friends are hard to come by.
If you get to the east side of the Cascades some time check in and we can talk more about the passion of life (fly fishing).
I have to apologize for teasing you about the "undercover photo dude".
I'm sure your heart is in the right place.
 
#19
I too love photography, but I am just about as amatuerish as they come (I have a good digital camera but it is not an SLR - I do have an SLR, but it is 35mm film so I have not touched it since I went digital). Maybe I can learn a thing or two from you if ever you come fishing with me.

Tom
 

Snake

tryin' not to get too comfortable
#20
I have no idea if you are being serious or a smart ass.
Half serious, half smart ass.

Mostly just checking to see if you're serious, or just looking to tag along with FF'ers who spend a long time getting their favorite water figured out, so you can shorten your own learning curve. You sound sincere and straight-up, though.

But if it is that big of a deal to anyone, the answer is probably that you don't need to have me around. This is supposed to be fun, not a stress causing type of thing.
Exactly!! I don't need to have you around to have a good time when I strike into the wilds to go fishing, but I do like good photo depictions of my adventures, which is hard to do, since most of my forays are solo, and setting up good self-timer shots is really hard! There's been so may times I KNEW a killer photo was possible, but the angles/distances made it impossible to do it self-timer.

It wouldn't be right to invite you on a trip, just to be my 'photo bitch'. It just seems weird to me.

I hope you get some good opportunities and pix, though. Photography, and the capturing of a specific moment in time and space, seems magical to me. The veracity is undeniable, even in this age of photoshop and digital reconstruction.

But I'll hobble along with my memories, as shifty and cantankerous as they may be.

I love a good photo, though.

Good Luck!!:beer2:
 
#21
Shooting flyfishing photos lets me pull together for two things I love.
Josh, here's an idea. Just go fishing to go fishing and bring your camera along.

Most people I know seem to have a camera with them. If you have the EOS-1DS MK3 and seven lenses or something then you'll just end up getting some exceptionally badass pictures versus the dude with the disposable rite-aid special.

Sometimes the fishing might be hot and you stow the camera, then break it out again when your arm is sore from all the fish. It it's slow, then you have something else fun to do, and you can work on getting some classic shots for the cover of the Orvis catalog : )

Nice pics BTW, I love the snowboard shot.
 

Josh

dead in the water
#23
Josh, here's an idea. Just go fishing to go fishing and bring your camera along.
No offense, but that isn't really a good way to be consistently successful at something like photography. At least not for me. Good photography takes a lot of effort and thought. At the very least, I can't be worrying about what fly to tie on next if I am trying to make serious images.

I need to be concentrating on one thing at a time. Otherwise I just do two things really half assed.
 

jasmillo

Active Member
#24
But what I want to do is learn to take photos that show the "feel" of fishing (to use a stupid 'art-school kind of word).
Personally, I think this one's easy. As much as "The mist rising from a spring creek on a cold morning, fat trout slurping tiny bugs close to the overhanging grass." sounds like a pretty picture taken, oh...10-15 gazillion times as representation of the "feel" of fly-fishing, I think to get a true feel, all you need to do is capture a pic of a flyfishermans face as he eyes a pod of rising fish....like a lion stalking a gazelle.

To me, the actual act of fishing is not relaxing or stress-relieving. It get's my heart pumping, it get's my adrenaline going, and it gives me a sore jaw from clenching my teeth so much. Let's face it, the act of fishing is actually fairly stressful endevor that is probably bad for your health. On the other hand, if your looking for the feel of "going fishing", then taking pics of of a quiet tranquill river, or some jack-ass swinging his fly-line around atop a rock like a tornado in the setting sun for no apparent reason....oh right he was "mimicking" an actual hatch to get fish to start to rise :beathead: is probably a good idea.It doesn't give you the "feel" of fly-fishing though. It's gives you the feel of spending time away from the rat race, something you can do by backpacking, sitting on a bench in a park etc....

Treat fly-fishing like the sport it is....and capture what really draws us to it...my two cents
 

Josh

dead in the water
#25
Jasmillo makes an interesting point. The photos that we all see of fly fishing, are they really showing fly fishing the way we see it? Or even the way that we want to see it.

My only thought is to point out where I came from photographically. All the professional work that I did for my first 5-6 years was snowboarding, skateboarding, BMX, wakeboarding, etc. I was completely disappointed when I watched my first fly fishing video. Holy crap, did it NOT make me want to go fishing. The AEG guys are the only ones so far to have made the kind of movie I would make if I were still involved with video work.

Fishing may pump a lot of people up, but I'm not sure I will ever see anyone as amped as some of the athletes that I worked with. It's hard not to get the blood flowing when you are trying to backflip off of a 40 foot cliff over a series of boulders. Or trying to ride through traffic through the open doors of the subway station, dodging the security guard and grinding a 15 stair rail. Those guys were all nuts. As bad (or worse) than any steelheader I have ever met.

However, I also think there is something to be said for the idealic quiet stream at morning calendar shot. I think most everyone can identify with that kind of imagery, especially if they were looking at a photo of themselves fishing in that same image. And to be honest, different styles stoke different people.

Guess what I am saying is that if I can get my head around the new challenge, my goal would be to be halfway between the skate/snow/bmx photos I used to do, and the kind of photos that are in the FFF calendar.
 

jasmillo

Active Member
#26
Fishing may pump a lot of people up, but I'm not sure I will ever see anyone as amped as some of the athletes that I worked with. It's hard not to get the blood flowing when you are trying to backflip off of a 40 foot cliff over a series of boulders. Or trying to ride through traffic through the open doors of the subway station, dodging the security guard and grinding a 15 stair rail. Those guys were all nuts. As bad (or worse) than any steelheader I have ever met.
You're absolutely right about that...flyfishing could not possibly get the blood pumping like the sports described above-I don't care how big the steelhead are!

That being said, flyfishing is an activity that stirs up something more to us than just enjoying a pretty, tranquill place. Like I said, there are a number of other activities that would allow us to enjoy these places without the frustration of being outsmarted by a 12 inch fish :)

Wait, I think I have an idea :ray1: that will allow you to combine extreme sports and flyfishing for you photographic pleasure......why don't you photograph someone flyfishing the "surfer" hatch for Great Whites off an Australian beach! I would buy that video! Any tiers on this board think they can whip up a quick "surfer dude" pattern?

In any case, post some pics of the trips you go on....I'd offer to bring you along but I'm new to the area and still trying to figure out my own secret spots as well! Good Luck!