So I posted this some months back and someone kept on promising me they would send a check. Well, they the lines are still here. Use for one week on a Middle Fork trip. One medium sinker, one floater. Both from Orvis. Don't ask me specifics or details on tapers, etc., because I bought these five years ago and wouldn't remember. I did not like the way that they loaded my 4 wt Boron II, so they might be perfect short cast lines for a 3 wt. First $20 takes both. I'm in Gig and you can pick them up or I will ship. Just get them off of my desk.