6/7 spey combo recommendations?

Discussion in 'Spey Clave' started by Nailknot, Mar 17, 2007.

  1. Big K1

    Big K1 Large Member

    Joined:
    Feb 26, 2003
    Messages:
    645
    Likes Received:
    76
    Location:
    Duvall, WA, U.S.A.
    Burkie 7125 with Hardy Salmon 1. The 7125 is the finest casting true 7 I have cast. Meiz's rods are very nice as well.
     
  2. Salmo_g

    Salmo_g Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Nov 18, 2004
    Messages:
    10,023
    Likes Received:
    5,681
    Location:
    Your City ,State
    Nailknot,

    Along with budget, your intended application is also important. I have a CND Spey Tracker which is designated 5/6/7, but I'm really only comfortable with a 6 wt Spey line on it. As I mentioned, the Forecast rod is more of a 7, and I'm comfortable fishing winter steelhead with it, whereas I limit the Spey Tracker to summer/fall fishing. James Mello has a Beulah 6/7 switch, and it's a sexy delightful rod, but I think it's also more of a summer weight rod, although he's giving it the winter test.

    Reels that suit this size range for me include my Hardy St. John, and the Elkhorn T-4 I picked up at the Fly Fishing show.

    If you're not needing to cast the proverbial country mile, these smaller Speys are a joy to fish.

    Figuring out lines is easy. Just ask Mike at Red Shed or Ron or Kristin at AATF.

    Sincerely,

    Salmo g.
     
  3. Hal Eckert

    Hal Eckert Active Member

    Joined:
    Sep 24, 2003
    Messages:
    998
    Likes Received:
    182
    Location:
    West GLs
    Ditto love my Snowbee Torridge 6/7 12 footer too. Lots of light spey choices now unlike 4-5 years ago.


    :beer2:


    BG

    Torridge At Work

    [​IMG]
     
  4. James Mello

    James Mello Inventor of the "closed eye conjecture"

    Joined:
    Feb 25, 2003
    Messages:
    2,821
    Likes Received:
    105
    Location:
    Tacoma
    If you want to give a 6/7 Switch a run, let me know and I can let you borrow mine for a while... Just PM me on the details ;)
     
  5. Rich McCauley

    Rich McCauley Meiser & Mohlin

    Joined:
    Jan 22, 2004
    Messages:
    105
    Likes Received:
    0
    Location:
    Tacoma, WA, USA.
    IF your budget allows, I also vote for the 7125-3 Burkie. The line recomendations from Trutta and Kevin are excellent choices. I use a Danielsson 8-12LW. I just finished building mine, so it looks a bit different than Kerry's production rods, but still casts as sweetly. And yes this is an excuse to show it off.

    There a lot of great rods "off the shelf" rods out there, but I always want it my way so I do my own or go to guys like Bob or Kerry.

    Rich
     
  6. Steelie Addict

    Steelie Addict Member

    Joined:
    Apr 19, 2005
    Messages:
    32
    Likes Received:
    3
    Location:
    Kirkland WA
    Hey Rich,
    I seen a rod that looks exactly like that one at a little lake in Monroe yesterday. I even gave it a few casts and wiggles.

    Yep it's a sweet rod, and you really did it up proud.
    Later,
    Rick
     
  7. billyspey

    billyspey New Member

    Joined:
    Jul 26, 2006
    Messages:
    37
    Likes Received:
    0
    Location:
    knoxville,tn
    bob meiser trouters should be a serious consideration ,sweet rods !!!!!!:
     
  8. flybill

    flybill Purveyor of fine hackle, wine & cigars!

    Joined:
    Aug 7, 2003
    Messages:
    2,965
    Likes Received:
    441
    Location:
    One of those "blue lines" in the WA, MT,
    iagree Definitely sweet rods!! High on my to buy list! I've cast the 5/6 a couple of times, and other than the fact you need to slow down your cast, it's awesome! Of course with all of the lighter speys, you really need to slow down your cast to let the rod load correctly.

    Good luck and yes, if you're able to spend the dinero, consider one of Bob's sticks! :cool:
     
  9. Kevin Giusti

    Kevin Giusti New Member

    Joined:
    Nov 22, 2006
    Messages:
    216
    Likes Received:
    0
    Location:
    Fort Bragg,Ca
    Just my two cents. I just built a beulah 5/6/7 and I really like it. I also have a Beulah 7/8 switch that is a great rod. Cast the 5/6/7 with a midsey 6/7 with the tip 2 removed and seemed pretty good although I still would like to try a few more lines and really dial it in. I have an older meiser 1356 that is one of my favorites, casts a 6/7 midspey floating or tips perfectly for me, although it may be more of a seven as speys go. Im pretty sure Meiser had a little input on the Beulah rods. I think if you go with either of these two you would be very happy. Definatly go for some test rides though. I finally did and it changed my outlook on what type of spey rod actions fit my casting style. I think it would be cool at some spey gatherings to put tape over the manufacturers rod names and let people do a "blind" test ride. I think it would surprise alot of people on which rod, line and action of rod they actually like.Maybe they already do this, dont know have only attended one class and it was put on by Sage but just a thought. Good luck. Kevin
     
  10. Nailknot

    Nailknot Active Member

    Joined:
    Apr 26, 2004
    Messages:
    1,910
    Likes Received:
    13
    Location:
    Cascadia
    Thanks for the input guys. I'm trying out a few sticks over the next week or so. I'll let you know what I end up with.
     
  11. Joe Smolt

    Joe Smolt Member

    Joined:
    Apr 2, 2003
    Messages:
    528
    Likes Received:
    9
    Location:
    Bothell, WA, USA.
    I went through this same question over the past year, and here was my personal experience

    Went to the Day on the River on a number of occasions to test and retest a range of rods. I learned brand preferences can change with rod wts. I learned I had to think a little more about what I wanted the rod to do for me. I wanted a lighter rod in feel for summer run steelhead and perhaps some salmon species. While some of the lighter rods felt good with floating lines and yarn, they could not handle bigger flies and sink tips. I ultimately decided I wanted a rod that could handle a broader range of fishing conditions.

    I had to think about rod lengths. I ultimately focused on shorter rods. I wanted a shorter rod so that when I used the rod for salmon and was actively stripping flies, the rod didnt feel too cumbersome.

    My preferences surprised me. My "big" rod is a sage which I really like, but I found I didnt prefer the lighter wt sages. When testing rods for my big rod, I really didn't like the feel of CND rods. I was really surprised with the Solstice rod. I tried a friend's Anderson rods built on Burkie blanks. To me, silky smooth but no backbone. I ultimately requested and tested a Highlander demo rod from Meiser and that was my final selection. I liked the rod because it felt like a small rod with more backbone than most to accommidate all my intended fishing conditions. I got lucky and was able to purchase an unused Marquis #1 reel to go with the rod. It turned out to be a great match.

    I took the rod out on its maiden trip early in the winter season thinking I was likely to get into dollies only. 10 casts into use and it was christianed with its first steelhead. The rod met my expectations. I've got a multi-use spey rod with the feel of a single-hander that purrs with a hardy reel.

    The process re-enforced to me that it is foolish to consider buying any spey rod without test driving it. I think that rod feel with spey rods is way more critical than single handers.

    Joe
     
  12. Rich McCauley

    Rich McCauley Meiser & Mohlin

    Joined:
    Jan 22, 2004
    Messages:
    105
    Likes Received:
    0
    Location:
    Tacoma, WA, USA.
    Joe,
    I think you comments are very helpful to anyone making a purchasing decision. regardless of rod length and weight.

    I don't mean to hijack this thread too far out of bounds, but I do have a question. Are you sure that your friend had an Anderson built on one of Kerry's blanks?

    I ask because Anderson designs his own tapers, but they are rolled up at Kerr's shop. Just a small point, but in general there is quite a difference between the two. On ther other hand, it may be exactly as you stated.

    After seeing Gary's work at this years FF Show in Bellevue I thught maybe I should have had him do the custom Burkie. Way less work for me and a full warentee on the whole rod, not just the blank.
    Rich
     
  13. Joe Smolt

    Joe Smolt Member

    Joined:
    Apr 2, 2003
    Messages:
    528
    Likes Received:
    9
    Location:
    Bothell, WA, USA.
    Rich:

    I am not 100% certain they are Burkie blanks. I thought my friend said that his rod was the last Gary was building on older burkie blanks. I am clear his rod was the last in a series based on a famous makers blanks and it was the end of that series.

    The rod is beautiful. I loved the wood work in the handle. I dont know if others would agree with my description of the rod. It is the silkiest smooth rod I've casted to date. But, it doesnt match my casting style. I have a (bad?) habit of "punching" the rod. Therefore, I lean towards fast action tippy rods. In some ways I fear I compensate for bad casting skills/situations with punching the rod. With the Anderson rod, that dont do. You got to jive with its rhythm.

    Joe
     
  14. Coach Duff

    Coach Duff Banned or Parked

    Joined:
    Dec 14, 2004
    Messages:
    1,272
    Likes Received:
    6
    Location:
    Kailua Hawaii
    Meiser, Burky or C&D Tracker. I've cast all three and own the Tracker, which is really a 6 and put a St. John on it with a C&D line and it casts itself. I would definately say it is a summer, fall rod though, or a great trout spey. I like to push gear a bit, but it will stay in the "rack" in winter. Meiz's light spey rods are unbelievable as are Kerry's. The word on the streets (Hawaii?) is that Kerry is developing a trout spey as we speak. Coach
     
  15. Nailknot

    Nailknot Active Member

    Joined:
    Apr 26, 2004
    Messages:
    1,910
    Likes Received:
    13
    Location:
    Cascadia
    I ended up with a Beulah 6/7 11'6" (Meiser design), with a Ace Vision line (built up by Deschutes Anglers) and stuck it on a Galvin reel. Will let y'all know how it goes- thanks for the help!