Enchanted Village (for adults, aka The Enchantments) warning: no fishing stoke

Dan Nelson

Hiker, Fisher, Writer, Bum
#16
It's not uncommon. A lot of people feel they 'own' a spot and do the same.
Actually, the Leave No Trace ethic says cairns should be removed whenever possible -- and it's the poeple who feel they 'own' the place that erect their own personal monuments in the shape of cairns. As somehow who has spent the better part of his adult life working with the USFS and non-profit trail associations, I can honestly say that 99% of all the cairns in U.S. wildlands are unnecessary and frequently misleading (marking the wrong routes, often dangerously so. etc.) At best, cairns are an intrusion that prevent the people coming after the cairn builders from experiencing the wildlands to their fullest.

Kicking cairns is an act of reclaiming the wilderness from those who want to mark those land as their own.
 

bigdood

fishing hack
#17
Here's a couple pics from this year's trip there. Was interesting to see it there year, about a month earlier than last year but a high snow year. The larch were JUST starting to get some yellow in them on the latter half of our trip. Last year we only saw two goats and they stuck with us the whole time, this year over a dozen goats. Didn't really get my Ansel Adams on this trip, just did a bunch of quick snaps, so nothing terribly exiting to look at, but hey a bit of a mental vacation is better than none when at work right?

Fogged in to start the day on the way up to Colchuck.


Lunch spot. Last year's was under 5+ feet of snow still.


Got up to take a piss one morn and the sun was just starting to come up. The colors were insane, especially when contrasted with the gray clouds that were pushing in. Grabbed the camera and snapped a quick pic, but as I wear contacts and didn't have 'em in it's a bit out of focus...though if your eyesight is like mine and you take your contacts/glasses off this may be in focus for ya :rofl:


Random patch of wildflowers 2/3 of the way up Asgaard. I think these are usually in bloom in June, but due to the snow cover this year September was the new June.


Crap, just looked at the clock and have to head out (that's why I don't login here much, kills too much time!). Will keep this going later...
 

JesseC

Active Member
#18
Actually, the Leave No Trace ethic says cairns should be removed whenever possible -- and it's the poeple who feel they 'own' the place that erect their own personal monuments in the shape of cairns. As somehow who has spent the better part of his adult life working with the USFS and non-profit trail associations, I can honestly say that 99% of all the cairns in U.S. wildlands are unnecessary and frequently misleading (marking the wrong routes, often dangerously so. etc.) At best, cairns are an intrusion that prevent the people coming after the cairn builders from experiencing the wildlands to their fullest.

Kicking cairns is an act of reclaiming the wilderness from those who want to mark those land as their own.
I know you guys have some pure motives here, but the enchantments are another story. The trail is hard to follow in a lot of spots and I've never been so happy as to have the cairns to follow. Particularly, the trek up aasgard pass and through a lot of the granite slabs in the actual enchantments zone.

I don't think either of you have hiked through that area or you'd know that they're completely necessary on this particular hike.
 
#19
Yes carins do have one place where i leave them, marking routes on alpine talus fields. They should be placed so that the next is visable (preferably on the horizon line) of the next critical trail point. Like dan said, they have there place, but 95 percent of the carins ive encountered do not fit that role.

In addition, they are dangerous. They often encouage people who are unable to navigate without them into the backcountry. Then it snows. Then your lost. Just an example and something to consider.

I have encountered mainly 2 types of people in regards to carin kickers.... the ones who kick, and the rest who get mad at us for it, and neither side seems to want to compromise. (just my experience)
 

Josh P

Active Member
#20
I know you guys have some pure motives here, but the enchantments are another story. The trail is hard to follow in a lot of spots and I've never been so happy as to have the cairns to follow. Particularly, the trek up aasgard pass and through a lot of the granite slabs in the actual enchantments zone.

I don't think either of you have hiked through that area or you'd know that they're completely necessary on this particular hike.
Well said.
 
#21
Great shots and reports. Been jonesin' to get up in the Enchantments for some time now.

Anybody here have any luck with the "day-of" passes to camp in the Enchantments that they give out at the Leavenworth Ranger Station? Just curious as I'm wondering what the potential of getting one in September for a group of 4. Thanks in advance.