Beads

Matt Smith

On the river Noyb
I just spent the last 30 minutes reading this thread, well 20 actually, five minutes i was bashing my head on the table the other five i was laughing at bunnies!
The bunnies were the best part of the thread!!!!
 

Brazda

Fly Fishing guide "The Bogy House" Lodge
I think its funny that I see more bead bashing than constructive advice on how to swing better. Maybe if people were taught how to fish a swing better they would fish that way more and you would have what you want.
Nail on the head!

Unfortunately sometimes NOT fishing the bead is like coming accross a Mayfly hatch and then comtinue throwing a Matney streamer at them!
It involves a little common sense.
 

Brazda

Fly Fishing guide "The Bogy House" Lodge
Didn't think this would ruffle so many feathers. I think for me I am just frustrated with these big commutes to the coast (5 in a row now) just to fish. Then I never see fellow swingers, mostly gear and bobbers. It makes me feel like the tradition of a swung fly is pastime now. At the end of the day four or five guys are bragging about sticking fish with a pinned bead, (guides included). Great for them, I know heavy flies and sink tips are far from purist, (and I am inches away from going full floating & traditional fly purist style). I feel the idea of a well presented fly and a tight line take is the way. I don't know anything else, since I have never used any other method. I look for the kind of water I want, that has a limitation that is a love hate relationship. Limitations of water conditions, fly speed, color, size, depth and so on appeal to me. I know that is not the case for some of you, my point was cross for most to read and my apologies go out for that. I guess I am just hard headed and a bead hater, don't take me serious. Some of the guys that have fished with me will vouch for my passion to just have fun fishing with all seriousness to catch a fish and watch over the river.
Stuart
Try actually fishing someplace other than the Boat launch at Morgans and you might gain some sympathy, after all how much can you expect from a river and its anglers when you never leave sight of you vehicle.
Good thread Stuart keep up the imaginary anger, oh there is another good swing that is in sight of the parking spot at Minnies too:):):)
 
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stewart dee

Guest
Stuart
Try actually fishing someplace other than the Boat launch at Morgans and you might gain some sympathy, after all how much can you expect from a river and its anglers when you never leave sight of you vehicle.
Good thread Stuart keep up the imaginary anger, oh there is another good swing that is in sight of the parking spot at Minnies too:):):)
Brazda
Hey thanks for the info. I will go look for the spot at Minnies next time out. What color bead would you recommend? So nice of you to let me in on such a secret spot. Thanks Lady, I owe you one.:):);)
 
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golfman65

Guest
I got a couple questions for you Brazda...this is just for my own curiosity sake as this is the first year I've fished down here....
When did beads start happening out there?

Do you think or worry it will have any cross over effect? I ask this as I see your out of Ellensburg and wonder if you see it happening on the Yak.?
Would it matter on there if it did? Seems it would suck if you were fishing the afternoon march brown hatch, do guys know any better? ( asking as I've seen the cross over effect of guys bottom bouncing on the Fraser when they open the sockeye run and then see it happen on all the other rivers afterwards)

Do you swing flies as well as beads on there for you clients and which would you prefer to see if not given the fact that as a guide you are paid to put people onto fish?

Interested to hear what you think would happen if the powers that be said he couldn't fish from a floating devise..would it totally screw the walk in guys? Would it benefit the fish at all?
I personally don't care what method is used for the hatchery run fish but what is you opinion of the effect of beads when it comes to native fish?
Have you seen any difference in the amount of fish that you've caught that were damaged by improper bead pinning or floaters because of it or would you say it's about the same as with any gear method?

Last, what is your position on beads for fly fish only water in the state of Wa.?

I look forward to hearing what have to say as it's interesting to what guides think about all of this and you'd be the ones who would see it first hand...I have talked to a few and some don't seem to care for it, others it doesn't bother as they are swinging and looking for different fish....So it would be interesting to hear your side for a change...
 

Ed Call

Well-Known Member
Is this what we are reduced to? The different fishing tactics groups constantly at odds? Totally ineffective method of unifying a group of folks concerned with the impending demise of the pacific steelhead. Diversity should be a strength, not a constant means of putting us at odds with each other. I don't care how you fish, so long as it is legal. I'm sure Dustin will say that killing one wild fish on the OP each year is legal and call me out on it. He's right and if you choose to catch and kill one wild fish each year you are legal. I'll say that I'm not a fan of that law, but I can live with our differences. This whole thread is a testament to the tearing down of any possible effort to unify.

Fish how you want, legally. Handle your fish with care, legally. Rub elbows with your fellow anglers, despite their tactics, methods or gear used. Support practices that help wild steelhead. If you can't do that then you are part of the problem. If enough of us are part of the problem then there is no hope for a solution.
 
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stewart dee

Guest
Up for your consideration. A new bead only lawn cast a few times. Asking 50.00 bucks shipped to your door. Oops thought this was the classifieds.
 
Mumbles, with all due respect, I think we can simultaneously work to protect mother nature and her beautiful fish, and rib, joke, or flatly disagree with each other about fishing methods. I don't judge the measure of a man by what methods he uses to fish, and I would gladly stand next to a bead fisherman in any efforts to do what is right for our natural resources,.....and they would probably be standing next to me already cause they just lowholed me:clown:

I think this thread has shown itself as just an outlet for some fun and jokes to be had.
 
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golfman65

Guest
mumbles, why is your ginch in a knot? I thought trying to ask the guides for first hand information would be one of the ways to put this sucker to rest once and for all?

These guys are on the front line and brazda fishes many different systems so I would think he would know and it would be a good time for the guides to chime in on the topic...

and I'm not bidding on no damn bead from stew....You never know what him and Jhoh were doing with those things..

just saying...
 

Brazda

Fly Fishing guide "The Bogy House" Lodge
I got a couple questions for you Brazda...this is just for my own curiosity sake as this is the first year I've fished down here....
When did beads start happening out there?

Do you think or worry it will have any cross over effect? I ask this as I see your out of Ellensburg and wonder if you see it happening on the Yak.?
Would it matter on there if it did? Seems it would suck if you were fishing the afternoon march brown hatch, do guys know any better? ( asking as I've seen the cross over effect of guys bottom bouncing on the Fraser when they open the sockeye run and then see it happen on all the other rivers afterwards)

Do you swing flies as well as beads on there for you clients and which would you prefer to see if not given the fact that as a guide you are paid to put people onto fish?

Interested to hear what you think would happen if the powers that be said he couldn't fish from a floating devise..would it totally screw the walk in guys? Would it benefit the fish at all?
I personally don't care what method is used for the hatchery run fish but what is you opinion of the effect of beads when it comes to native fish?
Have you seen any difference in the amount of fish that you've caught that were damaged by improper bead pinning or floaters because of it or would you say it's about the same as with any gear method?

Last, what is your position on beads for fly fish only water in the state of Wa.?

I look forward to hearing what have to say as it's interesting to what guides think about all of this and you'd be the ones who would see it first hand...I have talked to a few and some don't seem to care for it, others it doesn't bother as they are swinging and looking for different fish....So it would be interesting to hear your side for a change...
PM on the way...