SFR 12/6/12 Gay Weed

#17
I thought they were talking about the cartels from Canada, nicest serious criminals I've ever met. I think both changes are good. Although the weed thing could turn into a mess because the state won't handle the sales properly.
 

Flyborg

Active Member
#18
People in the Northwest still actually buy Mexican weed?
Not anyone I know. Why would they? We've got the emerald triangle, Canada, Colorado, not to mention what we grow here. If we need shitty black market stuff, we can get it through the domestic Vietnamese gangs growing it all over the state in rental houses.
 

Stonefish

Triploid, Humpy & Seaplane Hater
#19
Not anyone I know. Why would they? We've got the emerald triangle, Canada, Colorado, not to mention what we grow here. If we need shitty black market stuff, we can get it through the domestic Vietnamese gangs growing it all over the state in rental houses.
My point exactly. I should have put one of these :D after my post since I was being sarcastic.
 

Rob Allen

Active Member
#20
Pot is the number one money maker and the drug most smuggled into the USA by the cartels not to mention what they grow in the national forest
 

GAT

Dumbfounded
#22
I would imagine those in the drug trade are the ones who do not want weed legalized. Many gangsters made all their money from selling illegal booze during Prohibition. When Prohibition was repealed, they lost their income .

I have no doubt, the drug dealers would just as soon weed was kept illegal.
 

Flyborg

Active Member
#23
Marijuana and hemp were initially made illegal because because of the cotton industry's ties to our government. It was then scheduled as a schedule 1 drug along with other dangerous drugs because Nixon ignored the advice of the scientific review board that was supposed to determine the scheduling of drugs in the new federal drug laws (they recommended it be taken off the federal register entirely). It's no secret that it stayed schedule one because Nixon hated hippies. Since then, it's stayed illegal, been maligned with false science and propaganda due to the alcohol and tobacco lobbies, pharmaceutical lobbies, private prison lobbies, and existing black market apathy (which arguably defeated Oregon's similar measure). Today there are more people in federal prison on drug charges then there were people in prison for all charges in 1980. Many federal agents have come out against the laws stating that they as agents were specifically directed to target poor and minority peoples.

So yes. The people who made the laws had agendas. Like I said, welcome to America.
 

Pat Lat

Mad Flyentist
#24
The problem is that these laws were designed by people with agendas
To expand them.. Soon it will be hate speech to say that homosexual behavior is wrong...

The pot law.... All that does is give benefits to people who supported violent crime and Mexican drug cartels.
Most of the weed I've ever gotten has been grown locally, as I'm sure it is with most potheads.
 

GAT

Dumbfounded
#25
It's no secret that it stayed schedule one because Nixon hated hippies.

Yup. He was a strange little guy. Paranoid and vindictive.
 
#26
The problem is that these laws were designed by people with agendas
To expand them.. Soon it will be hate speech to say that homosexual behavior is wrong...

The pot law.... All that does is give benefits to people who supported violent crime and Mexican drug cartels.
Laws are always made by people with an agendas and opposed by people with different agendas.

I don't see a damn thing wrong with smoking a little pot or with consenting adults marring the person they love. I have alot less problem with either of those than I do with other folks trying to push their version of morality on me.

You're probably right, "soon it will be hate speech to say homosexual behavior is wrong". Because we'll probably get smarter and figure out folks are born gay. It's not a choice. I had a nephew and by age 3 or 4 we all knew he was gay, he's almost 30 now and still gay. I don't think at 3 he was planning to drop that bomb on the family.

We tried prohibition once before and it didn't work (it actually increased organized crime); we tried stopping interracial marriage and it didn't work...both of those things seem pretty stupid to most of us today. My predication is that within 20 years we'll look at both of these laws as positive steps.
 

GAT

Dumbfounded
#28
Then why did the pot head that killed my sister with a car go scott free, it was because there was at the time no established number for thc intoxication, now there is !!!!!!!
Washington and Colorado did it correctly. Oregon was an example of a poor plan and it didn't pass because of it.

Yup, it's just like Prohibition. What I didn't realize until I started looking into the repeal of Prohibition was that individual States started repealing the stupid law before the feds finally gave up and repealed it for the country. It seems the same will hold true for weed.

The only ones who stand to lose are the criminals. They do not want it legal. They saw what happened to their source of income when it became legal to drink again.
 
#29
The problem is that these laws were designed by people with agendas
To expand them.. Soon it will be hate speech to say that homosexual behavior is wrong...

The pot law.... All that does is give benefits to people who supported violent crime and Mexican drug cartels.
Your a idiot go play your video games