Scadden Assault XX in progress

Gregg Lundgren

Now fishing on weekdays too!
#16
Hi pdev,

I personally don't anchor in moving water, so I can't comment. Others may have feedback and are welcome to post it here, but you might have better response starting a new thread. That will get more eyeballs on the issue. I hope you enjoyed your new boat on her first drift, less the anchor problem of course.
 

Gregg Lundgren

Now fishing on weekdays too!
#17
Gregg Lundgren said:
What does work is my Water Master stripping apron with the direct Velcro attachment front, and bungie cord attachment rear(bungie cord with open hook to D-ring). I really like the stripping apron as a work platform in both stillwater and rivers, but I don't want it to restrict my movement in either a regular or emergency situation. The Water Master apron allows movement with the bungie attachment in back, and you can separate the Velcro attachment up front with ease. I added some adhesive backed Velcro to the desired location on the boat, allowing for some adjustment.

Challenges:
  • The saddlebags interfered a bit with the near side of the WM stripping apron. Not bad, but I would like to get it more taut, yet easy to release.
  • The adhesive backed Velcro loops strip I added to the boat will need some PVC adhesive over time. (The industrial strength Velcro label did mention: not so good on flexible vinyls)
The saddlebags interfered a bit with the near side of the WM stripping apron. Not bad, but I would like to get it more taut, yet easy to release.
Solved - Routed the bungie cords under the saddlebags to the outboard D-rings. Easy to do.

The adhesive backed Velcro loops strip I added to the boat will need some PVC adhesive over time. (The industrial strength Velcro label did mention: not so good on flexible vinyls)
Solved - Sure enough, the adhesive started to get gummy and pull away in the sun. BSI provided some Velcro strips and PVC adhesive when I ordered the additional stripping apron. Removed old and applied new after re-measuring for new rower's position.
 

Blue

Active Member
#18
HI ,
i just had my first drift with my Assualt XX 2 person. It drifted fine in class 2 water (the Cowichan River In BC). My anchor system was problematic. I tried the strap on Scotty Anchor Lock system Using Scotty parts #266 (Straps & mount) with #276 (anchor lock). I was using about 12 lb weight. The straps slip all the time. I had to continually repostion the anchor lock as it slipped over the back.. Does anyone have a solution or different idea on how to anchor in moving water. Scotty manufacturer says this combo is not recommended as an anchor system. The strap mount is for rod holders yet Scadden promotes these combos for the Assault XX.


Put it on and tighten before you fully inflate. I use several large links of chain for an anchor (when I use an anchor) and no slipping at all. I did buy a flexible plastic cutting board I put under the straps to keep the anchor from banging against the pontoon.
 

Gregg Lundgren

Now fishing on weekdays too!
#19
Gregg Lundgren said:
Next, the rod holder. Hmmm... A tube strap rod holder doesn't look very feasible for use in a handy location. I guess there is the adhesive mount base for a Scotty, but I've heard mixed reviews. Dave Scadden mentioned at the Lynnwood show that simplicity is your friend, a lot of things just get in the way. Maybe just lay the rod down? Perhaps, but I often use my rod holder on the river like a quick draw holster as I am getting on or off the oars, primarily just to move thru bony water, but also launching and landing.
Ed Call said:
The Scotty glue on rod mounts would be a nice accessory. Before gluing them, use some of your industrial Velcro to position them and test them well before going permanent. If not that, what about something vertical on the back of your seat? Casting on your left or right would not interfere with the spare rod(s). Another alternative, the back of the seat box in front of you. May be too far of a reach though. Possibly heat and bend some thin wall PVC pipe that could be laid along the boat. With only 10' of length, you may have to bend them around the bow a bit, but likely could slot them just behind your seating position so that you could remove and insert the rods. With the pin oar lock system, this would force your PVC to be inside or outside the tubes enough to clear the oars.
Well, I am still puzzling this out for the Assault XX. Tube strap rod holders are out due to the front and back cargo decks. Like Jesse, I can't envision an elegant solution quite yet. Laying 9 foot rods down only leaves about 8" overhanging the boat, and you can secure the rod(s) with the Velcro strip on the saddlebag. So, this is doable for now.

The best location for a glue-on Scotty rod holder(front right for me) would interfere with getting onto the oars. Blue makes the suggestion to stow the oars blade first, and this would solve the situation for stillwater. But, I do worry about that configuration on the river should the blades get hit by rough water or an obstruction of sort. Am I being a bit too paranoid?
 

Blue

Active Member
#21
Well, I am still puzzling this out for the Assault XX. Tube strap rod holders are out due to the front and back cargo decks. Like Jesse, I can't envision an elegant solution quite yet. Laying 9 foot rods down only leaves about 8" overhanging the boat, and you can secure the rod(s) with the Velcro strip on the saddlebag. So, this is doable for now.

The best location for a glue-on Scotty rod holder(front right for me) would interfere with getting onto the oars. Blue makes the suggestion to stow the oars blade first, and this would solve the situation for stillwater. But, I do worry about that configuration on the river should the blades get hit by rough water or an obstruction of sort. Am I being a bit too paranoid?


In all honesty, I got rid of my Assault and got the new version. I will not be putting a glue on in the front on this boat.
My open bow boats yes as I can tilt it more to the inside. I will still put on on the back.
 

Gregg Lundgren

Now fishing on weekdays too!
#22
Ed Call said:
If you are in rough water your badges are not stored forward, they are in use, no?
I see what you did there.:)

Leave it to Ed to apply some logic here. But you assume I am always paying attention, and I am. Unfortunately sometimes it's to a fish, or a stubborn knot.:eek:

But seriously, touché my friend!