Parking and looters


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I park my vehicle in downtown every night. The only time I've had a break in is on MP18 on Canyon Rd.

Go figure....
I parked down under the viaduct below the market and it was many, many years ago.

My point is it doesn't matters where you are or what you do the scum of the world will still screw with your shit.


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Ok... I'm open to any valid argument which demonstrates that threatening tweakers with a nasty note or being violently protective of your car (while your off fishing???) prevents vehicle damage and theft. That's the bottom line. I figured a creative way to minimize the hassle so that I can fish instead. And as far as giving in... Let me ask this: Do you really think that a militant attitude about property will diminish the problem? To me it's simply an equation to be solved. Not something to get emotional about. You can sweep and sweep a dirt floor and all you get is dust. But if you water that floor down at least the dust isn't a problem. Ideally the tweakers wouldn't be a problem. But they are. (period) So they must be dealt with. Oh wait!!! I can't do that because their skeevy asses are hiding in the woods waiting for me to go fishing. Oh darn. So the twaekers have one up on us there. No matter how committed and violent we're willing to get in support of our property rights. Ok, So the question becomes: What's the least bad solution to the problem? I'm going with the one that will most likely allow me to drive home with all my stuff. Suffering any extra damage and inconvenience on principal when your impotent to actually do anything about it just doesn't make sense.


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10incher -you are correct.

The post about the gun scope blah blah blah is just frustrated hot air coming out of a windless sail. The guy( i hope) is not going to leave a note like the one mentioned and then sit far off in the woods and shoot the thief with a rifle. He may be that dumb, i dont know the guy and if he is true to his written words, we wont know of him for too long cuz he will be living in prison. The tweakers see us load up the gear and off to fish we go. They know the game and we are at their mercy. Thats why i leave nothing in the car and the doors unlocked. Kicking the shit out of some guy while he is going thru your car is one thing, shooting a guy from far away is murder in any courthouse. Kicking his ass and a possible assault charge is better than a prison term.
LOL- you dont get out too often do ya? Tweakers are everywhere they sell household cleaners and have a general store.
You may be right in the fact that there there are tweakers everywhere but I guarantee there are far fewer in mt and places like it. It's a matter of population and trust me there are more degenerates in wa than the entire population of mt. I know I was stationed in wa. I always leave my truck unlocked and sometimes running in the winter. I would never do that on the wet coast. Too bad, it could be an awesome place, unfortunately people have ruined it.
I like the idea of leaving the vehicle empy, minus empty shotgun boxes! I've been toying with the idea of leaving a note like, "I can SEE YOUUUU," or "Is lip gloss and hand wipes worth it?"


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I want make sure I'm not misunderstood. My van was looted once. I was so mad I could've punched a baby. I didn't have anything of value to a tweaker in there. But the douche took a bunch of paper out of my center console. Perhaps to attempt ID theft or something. I lost about a half a years worth of material receipts for work, the title to my van and misc. other snarky, problematic things. If I'd have come across the guy in progress I would've twisted him into a pretzel and taken a bite outta him. And I'd rather catch someone breaking into my van and shave their shins with a wood planer than buying them a beer. But I realize that I will probably never see a break in in progress. That's the point if your a thief. You hide when you steal. So... I have to settle for being able to drive home and go to work without smelling some druggie's piss the whole time.
Everybody says don't leave nothing in your rig. Best thing to do on single day local trips.

But how do you not leave nothing in your rig on an extended camping, fishing trip, camping at different spots each day, especially primitive camping, none camp ground? You are going to have some camp gear that is not brought with you while fishing. I don't like leaving gear at an unattended camp either.

I still have not figured out how to not leave any gear in the rig on an extended camping trip, while fishing some distance from the rig. I roll the dice on every extended trip.

I've had my rig vandalized, just to be vandalized, when it had nothing of value on a single day local trip before also.



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I still have not figured out how to not leave any gear in the rig on an extended camping trip, while fishing some distance from the rig.
That IS another problem. Maybe a fake bomb on the front seat? Complete with three phony dynamite sticks and a clock taped together. It starts ticking loudly when the car is disturbed.

David Loy

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You simply stop a half mile short of the parking lot in an unobtrusive spot or pull out, maybe near that old stump (anything you can identify later) and stash the extras in the woods, maybe under a camo tarp or in a G.bag. PITA but not that tough. That works for a nominal amount of stuff but not if you're dragging a truck load of gear with you.