NFO Scadden Outlaw Predator?

MakoML

Trout Spooker
#1
I am starting to get tired of hauling my 10' framed toon in and out of storage every time I want to run to the local lake and fish for a couple hours. So I have been thinking about one of the frameless toons / jumbo tubes. I had SFC for awhile but decided I wanted something bigger............... hence the 10' toon........ now I want something with decent size but light and fast to set-up and inflate etc.

This NFO 2014 Predator looks almost perfect, I thought the Renegade was too big for what it was, and the Escape a bit short for my 6'4" frame. The Predator looks more what I might like. But I have yet to talk to anyone that has fished one let alone see one in person. I can't even find the pricing anywhere for it.

Anyone care to share their hands-on info about this watercraft?
 

Blue

Active Member
#3
I am starting to get tired of hauling my 10' framed toon in and out of storage every time I want to run to the local lake and fish for a couple hours. So I have been thinking about one of the frameless toons / jumbo tubes. I had SFC for awhile but decided I wanted something bigger............... hence the 10' toon........ now I want something with decent size but light and fast to set-up and inflate etc.

This NFO 2014 Predator looks almost perfect, I thought the Renegade was too big for what it was, and the Escape a bit short for my 6'4" frame. The Predator looks more what I might like. But I have yet to talk to anyone that has fished one let alone see one in person. I can't even find the pricing anywhere for it.

Anyone care to share their hands-on info about this watercraft?



Husband is 6'4 and 220. He used his all summer.


It is 8' long, 13lbs without add ons. It is heart valve material with several coatings. No skid plate like the Renegade, but light enough to pick up. Plastic D rings but more Nylon, you can twist them and they do not break.
Comes with an apron, which is nice.
Price, right now $999.
http://www.northforkoutdoors.com/2013christmassale/2013christmassale.html
On their website Thomas
http://northforkoutdoors.com/home.html
 

LCnSac

John or "LC"
#5
I have a Renegade, and would love to shed 16 lbs of weight. They are the same price. My concern would be the lack of skid plates on the bottom. I don't know how Scadden addresses this; maybe the material is tough enough to not need them. If these are proven over the next year I'll certainly trade my Rene in for this one. I do know my skid plates have plenty of evidence of sliding over some rocks in the river and at lake take outs and I'm glad they're there.
 

Blue

Active Member
#6
I have a Renegade, and would love to shed 16 lbs of weight. They are the same price. My concern would be the lack of skid plates on the bottom. I don't know how Scadden addresses this; maybe the material is tough enough to not need them. If these are proven over the next year I'll certainly trade my Rene in for this one. I do know my skid plates have plenty of evidence of sliding over some rocks in the river and at lake take outs and I'm glad they're there.



All about lightening it up. More material such as skid plates means more weight. I have not had an issue with lack of. I do use a motor and battery. I come to shore motor first which allows me to remove the weight before pulling it ashore.
We had ours all summer. Bought them in May.
 

LCnSac

John or "LC"
#7
My concern would be hitting sharp rocks or dragging bottom in rivers. I'll look at it in January at ISE. Yours looks cool and I know you put it to a lot of use.
 

LCnSac

John or "LC"
#8
Saw this and looked at it closely at ISE. The material looks very beefy. Dave had a local guy helping him and he said it has Kevlar in the material. I don't know.Two negatives. One, it is cheapened up with no skid plates (weight, I know) and plastic D-rings. Two, it's 8', not 9' and on top of the Renegade it looks small. I think this toon is better for stillwater than moving water.

It's an awesome craft because of the weight. Temped to replace my SFC with one, same weight, better utility and a LOT more money too.
 

Blue

Active Member
#9
Saw this and looked at it closely at ISE. The material looks very beefy. Dave had a local guy helping him and he said it has Kevlar in the material. I don't know.Two negatives. One, it is cheapened up with no skid plates (weight, I know) and plastic D-rings. Two, it's 8', not 9' and on top of the Renegade it looks small. I think this toon is better for stillwater than moving water.

It's an awesome craft because of the weight. Temped to replace my SFC with one, same weight, better utility and a LOT more money too.


I got a deal for you ;-)
 

LCnSac

John or "LC"
#13
I'm waiting to see how proud she is of the old worn out cast off;-) Chances are highly probable she'll be very fair but I'm probably not a buyer. I'm more focused on finding a 17' re-powered Montauk right now.
 

LCnSac

John or "LC"
#15
I was fishing with a guy with an Escape that weighs 24# (the boat, not the guy;-) and it sure seemed light compared to my Renegade. Long story short I found a Predator locally and picked it up today. As usual, Blue was very helpful and answered some pre-sale questions.

The Predator is not 7'6" nor is the Renegade 9', but the difference is about 14" in length, mostly taken from the rear deck, and about 5" in width. The tubes are the same size.

It has been cheapened up a bit, but the whole line has. The new bags aren't as nice as the old ones, and I'm not sure about the plastic D rings. BUT….it is 15 lbs. lighter than the Renegade and a LOT less cumbersome. I haven't used it yet, but I'm sure it will be fine. I'd feel fine on any flat water and Class II rivers judging from the size. I never thought I'd sell the Renegade, but this deal was too good to resist and I think it will be just great. Here they are, side by side: