Rage Debate - Fire arms carrying while fly fishing

#1
This thread is a meant to be a more proper home for civil discourse regarding various viewpoints on carrying firearms while flyfishing, as opposed to gang tackling the poor guy who was asking for holster advice on another thread.

So here is the question:

Is is it ever reasonable ever for someone to carry a firearm while fly fishing? Why or why not? Justify your answer.
 

Salmo_g

Well-Known Member
#4
It's reasonable in the U.S. whenever a citizen feels like it. It's a protected Constitutional right. No other reason is needed. So I wouldn't question anyone's right to do so, but I personally think anyone carrying as protection from cougars or wolves is out of touch with the concept of reasonable risk.

Cougars aren't likely to attack except by ambush that I'll never know with any forewarning. And I don't expect to be attacked by wolves under any circumstances, having once inadvertently kicked a group of 5 from their day bed area one time. Grizzly bears are another matter, but then there is the whole problem of actually using a firearm effectively in a bear attack situation.

I don't own a .44 mag or heavier handgun, and if I did, it would probably be more effective as a noisemaker than a life defense weapon. And I haven't found an effective way to carry a shotgun while fly fishing. So I talk to the bears while hiking through brush or thick forest, use my whistle if I see a bear, carry pepper spray just in case, and am reconciled that fishing in bear country includes the limited risk of becoming bear scat.

Sg
 

Josh

dead in the water
#6
This forum is for positive conversations. Not heated debates.
Might as well piss into the wind and hope to stay dry. Probably have the same amount of success as asking for a calm thread on this topic.

I suppose there is a first time for everything. And WFF is better than most places as far as having people who can keep a level head on the subject of guns and understanding both sides.

Still...I wouldn't bet my own money on it happening.
 

fly-by

Active Member
#9
Chased by vicious local pitbull on NF Stilly.
Interrupting 2 tweakers breaking into rigs (hadn't reached mine yet) at WDFW lot on the Sky.
Watched/followed by weird guy on the Cedar.

Never had to draw, but thankful I was exercising my right to carry in each of those instances.

I have since moved on to other fisheries where these things are less likely to happen, but still carry.
 

Jim Ficklin

Genuine Montana Fossil
#10
I carry ALL the time, where legal. Why would I not carry just because I'm fishing? The Second Amendment allows me to "keep and bear arms." My training and CWP's allow me to carry concealed. WA State allows me to open-carry where legal, should I desire. It's a personal preference; my preference is to carry. I also have life & fire insurance (haven't needed them); I carry spare tires (haven't needed them); I let family know where I'm going (so far I've always made it back home). My point is: Stuff happens & none of it is planned or scheduled. I reckon I'm still a Boy Scout . . . I adhere to "Be prepared." However, I'll condemn no one should their preference be to the contrary; heck, I'd even help them if help is needed.
 

G-spot4u

Active Member
#11
It is unreasonable for fools, fanatics, hotheads, neophytes and minors to carry guns while flyfishing under any circumstances because they are the most likely to hurt themselves and others.

I think it's reasonable to bring a gun while flyfishing in WA in order to shoot it, away from other people. However, it's highly unlikely I would carry a gun in my waders or in a holster under my fishing vest for defensive purposes, which may be a noble idea, but is laughably unrealistic and impractical for vast majority. I would keep any firearm in my backpack until I found a nice place to squeeze off a few rounds and then put it back.

I would advise most people not to bother carrying a gun while flysfishing in WA unless it's essential. If it's essential, then I might advise them to fish elsewhere or go in a group.
 

G-spot4u

Active Member
#13
So, you carry a gun and it makes you feel better. Have you ever had to brandish it out of necessity? Do you go shooting between casts?

I carry ALL the time, where legal. Why would I not carry just because I'm fishing? The Second Amendment allows me to "keep and bear arms." My training and CWP's allow me to carry concealed. WA State allows me to open-carry where legal, should I desire. It's a personal preference; my preference is to carry. I also have life & fire insurance (haven't needed them); I carry spare tires (haven't needed them); I let family know where I'm going (so far I've always made it back home). My point is: Stuff happens & none of it is planned or scheduled. I reckon I'm still a Boy Scout . . . I adhere to "Be prepared." However, I'll condemn no one should their preference be to the contrary; heck, I'd even help them if help is needed.
 

G-spot4u

Active Member
#15
Have you ever had to brandish, point or shoot your weapon at a "crazy"?

I am a tree hugging, bleeding heart but I have no issues with any kind of carrying at all. I carry on trips occasionally if things or places seem sketch. There are enough crazies out there that I feel it is totally valid.
Proper training, a realistic outlook, and common sense are the key prerequisites.