Targeting Salmon?

#19
Terry, I would say stay at six weight or five weight, 3x leader at the strongest, and be willing to lose some flies. When salmon season is closed you may not target them. If you are rigged for salmon fishing, that is construed as targeting them.
Seems to me that anytime I'm SRC fishing I may appear to be rigged for Salmon fishing. Especially given the general fly size (baitfish patterns) I fish. The only thing that may separate my SRC rig from a Salmon rig would be hook size.

I remember back in MT where targeting Bull Trout is against the law, so fishing big streamers throws a red flag so to speak. Problem is, I hardly fish anything but streamers on rivers and Westslope Cutties, Rainbow Trout and Brown Trout all like chunky streamers, so I could be blamed for targeting Bull Trout and yes, we did catch them as well but we CandR all our fish anyways.

Unless super obvious like throwing herring I find it would be hard to judge a fly fishers' target, especially with some people only having one rod. Shady business.
 

mtskibum16

Active Member
#20
Seems to me that anytime I'm SRC fishing I may appear to be rigged for Salmon fishing. Especially given the general fly size (baitfish patterns) I fish. The only thing that may separate my SRC rig from a Salmon rig would be hook size.

I remember back in MT where targeting Bull Trout is against the law, so fishing big streamers throws a red flag so to speak. Problem is, I hardly fish anything but streamers on rivers and Westslope Cutties, Rainbow Trout and Brown Trout all like chunky streamers, so I could be blamed for targeting Bull Trout and yes, we did catch them as well but we CandR all our fish anyways.

Unless super obvious like throwing herring I find it would be hard to judge a fly fishers' target, especially with some people only having one rod. Shady business.
I totally agree with that. However, if you are upsizing your gear just so you can better handle a fish you are not supposed to be targeting, I'm pretty sure you're targeting that species. That doesn't mean you'd get a ticket for it, but you have to know you aren't 100% abiding by the regulations.

What if you are fishing an 8 wt line on a 6 wt rod?

Well if OMJ was a warden I know he would give out a ticket for that.
That's not cool Nick. NO one should EVER under/over line a rod under ANY circumstance! ;)
 

Bob Triggs

Stop Killing Wild Steelhead!
#23
Seems to me that anytime I'm SRC fishing I may appear to be rigged for Salmon fishing. Especially given the general fly size (baitfish patterns) I fish. The only thing that may separate my SRC rig from a Salmon rig would be hook size.

I remember back in MT where targeting Bull Trout is against the law, so fishing big streamers throws a red flag so to speak. Problem is, I hardly fish anything but streamers on rivers and Westslope Cutties, Rainbow Trout and Brown Trout all like chunky streamers, so I could be blamed for targeting Bull Trout and yes, we did catch them as well but we CandR all our fish anyways.

Unless super obvious like throwing herring I find it would be hard to judge a fly fishers' target, especially with some people only having rod. Shady business.

Using a five weight or six weight rod, a single #6 or smaller fly,and 4X to 3X tippets, we stay out of trouble legitimately.
 

Chris Bellows

Your Preferred WFF Poster
#24
I think some are missing the point. An angler knows whether he is targeting salmon or not and the concern should be not whether they might get a ticket but rather is it an acceptable angler ethic to target a species that is closed. It really is up to the individual angler and their own ethic.

curt
bingo, one has to self police themselves because there is no chance of being busted based on line weight, tippet strength, or other nonsense especially since the likelihood of being stopped by a warden is about the same as being struck by lightning.

the problem is that washington seems unable to allow targeted salmon c&r fisheries in the saltwater. this is too bad as other areas of the country allow one to fish for species that are closed for harvest just as long as you release them. it creates confusion with all of the differing marine areas and would have minimal impacts if selective gear were required when harvest was closed. i think back to last summer in june when i could legally fish for coho on the canadian side of swiftsure (c&r only since i couldn't land the fish back in a US port) but if they happened to cross a dotted line on the chart those same fish were off-limits to fishing. seemed an odd situation to me but i was happy to just be on the water fishing for coho without needing to harvest them. this happens regularly where one marine area is open for harvest and fishing but a 1/4 mile away it is shut down to everything but cutthroat and flounder.

it seems like we manage for poachers and scofflaws and not the majority of anglers who would either enjoy some non-harvest opportunity or wait for the harvest season to open.
 
#25
heres a giggle when the wenatchee first started that #14 hook size stuff for whitefish a local tied up leeches on a #14 streamer hook well he was fishing for whitefish but could not keep the "red fish" off the hook (steelhead) in fact the warden did check his gear and got as much of a laugh out of it as the guy fishing as the regs only said size#14 no wording for gap or length, but he did pass along to him that maybe just maybe he was stretching the rule envelope a bit ;)
 

Bagman

Active Member
#28
Was checked once last year for a license, as the guy walked away he stopped and asked if I was pinching off my barbs. I said yes and he just kept walking. I guess I look like a law abiding guy?
 
#29
I get checked 3 or so times a year. (Not counting 2 boat inspections this year from staters) 80+ days on the water a year, participating in about 15 different fisheries. I will often see them but they are too busy to hit everyone on the water. They sometimes will watch from a far as well. I wish they did check more fly fisherman because there are many that think they are above the law. Even in regards to barbed hooks for steelhead and its a damn shame.
 

Bob Triggs

Stop Killing Wild Steelhead!
#30
I get checked 3 or so times a year. (Not counting 2 boat inspections this year from staters) 80+ days on the water a year, participating in about 15 different fisheries. I will often see them but they are too busy to hit everyone on the water. They sometimes will watch from a far as well. I wish they did check more fly fisherman because there are many that think they are above the law. Even in regards to barbed hooks for steelhead and its a damn shame.

The game wardens have always been stretched for time and coverage. And ever since the budget crunches hit, the game wardens are working harder than ever, with less resources.