A couple of chironomid questions.

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  1. Lue Taylor

    Lue Taylor Lue Taylor/dbfly

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    Olive Bugger beware of what you ask of Chironomid fishing there so much to learn you need to hook up with Ira get the full scope of the game
     
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    OB.... believe it or not, you can also catch fish with a midge emerger pattern with a sinking line!

    GASP!!!!

    It's true... I do it all the time. A dry line with an indicator isn't always required. Presentation with a sinking line is a viable technique.

    We've noticed that midges swim, stop, swim, stop, so I may troll around and use my finger on the fly line close to the reel to create a trigger action where I pull the line with my finger three times then let the fly move freely. Then repeat.

    This stop and go retrieve can be very effective with a sinking line... no indicator required. :)
     
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  3. Olive bugger

    Olive bugger Active Member

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    Lue, I would probably put a jinx on Ira, if he fished with me. I would consider it an honor to fish with him, however.


    Gene, I am accustomed to fishing quiet, flat water with a sinking line. Do it all the time, but with streamers and nymphs. Gotta try it with chironomids.
     
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    As I mentioned, the action you give the fly makes a huge difference if you're using a sinking line with a midge emerger pattern. You'll need to experiment a bit to find the correct combination of stop and starts for the retrieve.... and sometimes, simply slowly trolling around while adding no additional movement to the fly is the ticket.
     
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    ryfly Addicted to flyfishing

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    I like to use a loop knot to give the fly the maximum amount of motion without having to move the fly line too much.
     
  6. Olive bugger

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    Like the DUNCAN KNOT?
     
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    ryfly Addicted to flyfishing

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    I actually use a double surgeons knot. I can tie it with my eyes closed and I know that it will be in line with with my tippet as opposed to off center and not in line with my line.
     
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  8. Olive bugger

    Olive bugger Active Member

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    Double Surgeons knot would work.
     
  9. Irafly

    Irafly Indi "Ira" Jones

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    Ahh, I'm ok, but there are others on here that are as good if not better. As for jinxing... well we make our own luck. Throw out where you are fishing and when and I'll try to meet you on the water sometime.
     
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    Will do, Ira.
     
  11. little rod

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    DEPTH - COLOR - SIZE / Look for shucks, that will give you the size. I usually fish 2 also with the bottom chirono usually being red. If you have an idea of how deep the water is, about a foot off the bottom.
     
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    The movement I like is called "chironomid chop"! The trout mafia gets it.
     
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    Another question. Leaders? I am thinking about a 5x Flourocarbon
    about a foot off the bottom? These are about size 14 hooks.
     
  14. Lue Taylor

    Lue Taylor Lue Taylor/dbfly

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    6X works best no problem landing if tippet more than 12 inches landed a lot of pigs on that
     
  15. triploidjunkie

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    Dang you guys use light tippet.