A rookies log.

Discussion in 'Steelhead' started by DanielOcean, May 10, 2013.

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  1. DanielOcean

    DanielOcean Steelhead Virgin

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  2. DanielOcean

    DanielOcean Steelhead Virgin

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    So another thing I would like to add to this log. So far I have been 110% dedicated to this wonderful art, and I wanted to let all of the other fellow newbies here, and potential newbies in the future. I have observed and found out that most of your fishing "career" if you will will consist 98% to preparation. I am spending every bit of my free time to studying, studying, studying. I have also simply just sat at some rivers already and just "watched" just simply watched. Take everything in you can. A lot of the wonderful things that you can receive through research are actually from your many fellow anglers on this very forum. Thank you to all now and ahead of time for your help and future help for others. I hope to one day be the one helping.
     
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    James Mello Inventor of the "closed eye conjecture"

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    Based on lurking here, you really need to focus on 3 things:

    1) Take casting lessons
    2) Take casting lessons
    3) Buy items from a reputable fly shop

    For 1 and 2, look on this site for folks up north. Contrary to popular belief Aaron Reimer and Mike Kinney can teach both single handed and double handed rods. Spend the money on at least 3 lessons and practice what they tell you.

    As for the reputable shop, go in with a budget. If you constrain what you can spend, they will always find the highest quality product that fits the price. Also the local shops will let you cast the item, and in some cases demo the product for a day or two. Build a relationship with these guys, and really take notice that pricing between shops is *rarely* different, and if they are only within a few dollars.

    As for Salmo, I love his attitude with cutting and slicing and dicing, but honestly, doing this is probably not in the best interest of a newbie. Once again, go to a shop, set your budget and work with them. At *worst* case,, if you can only afford a non-multitip line, you can purchase a line from them, and most shops will do a cut and welded loop for you.

    As for fishing and catching steelhead, you'll need to hook up with a mentor. This could be a couple of trips with a guide or it could be an experienced steelheader. At worst case, take a trip with a successful gear fishermen. Often times the place where they catch fish will actually be fishable by the fly fishermen. Avoid large long bars like the plague. While they fish nice, it's often more productive to pick your nose and drink beers. There are exceptions, but those are typically hatchery blood holes.
     
  4. DanielOcean

    DanielOcean Steelhead Virgin

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    Besides picking your nose and drinking beer, I would also suggest that it is important to throw in some ball scratching too.
     
  5. DanielOcean

    DanielOcean Steelhead Virgin

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    Hit the N. Fork Stilly today. Very bright and clear conditions and running around 1500 cfs last I checked. Did not catch anything but had a great time, and learned a ton. I fished the deepest pools I could find since it was so clear and bright out. I am curious if anyone else had luck with today's weather. Also got a chance to break in my new MSR pocket rocket, and GSI ketalist cook set today.
     
  6. cuponoodle breakfast

    cuponoodle breakfast free bird

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    Sometimes I try to write my name on the rocks when I piss on the riverbank. Otherwise, it's just fishing and not art.
     
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    Shoulder sore as hell with blisters on my casting hand. Awesome.
     
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    Daniel,

    I've had a Pocket Rocket for nearly 10 years. I forgot to break it in before using it. Didn't seem to hurt it. My daughter asked for one of those cook kits too, so I got her one. I was kinda' disappointed in that they're excessive for a true weight weenie backpacker.

    BTW, sore shoulder is indicative of poor casting form. Even old farts like me with elbow and shoulder ailments can cast from can't see in the morning til can't see at night without the joints acting up. Therefore I again recommend that you work on your casting technique.

    Not sure about the blisters tho. You ever use your hands for anything?

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    Salmo,

    Dang man I am dissapointed in you. I figured you of all people would make a joke about the blisters. Actually false alarm. I thought they were blisters but a spot on my thumb was just a little agitated. Still sore arm though. As soon as I am working again I am going to go get casting lessons from Pacific Fly fishers most likely. Just came from there and Michael and the guys hooked me up to start tying flies. Bought the cheap AA vice, tools, and material to start learning to tie a freight train. And to answer your question yes I use my hands for alot of stuff. I am a mechanic.
     
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    It was with great restraint that I didn't make a joke about your blisters. But I want to protect my reputation for always making my posts in good taste.

    If you prowl around a bit, you can probably get a casting lesson or two for free, so don't fail to investigate that possibility.

    Fly tying is a good addiction too. It's kept me from countless nights in bars and made me a better husband and father, with the side benefit that my small children and the cat learned not to put stray hooks into their mouths. I'm not sure what the cheap AA vice is - is it an addiction to cheap drugs or booze? -, but my ex gave me a Thompson A vise in 1974, and I'm still tying on it even tho I was given a Regal a few years ago by a co-worker who moved away.

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    Salmo,


    You are not going to offend me good sir. I have pretty thick skin and can take it when people fuck with me. I have my vice and stuff right in front of me and watching how to tie this freight train fly. Looks pretty simple. Honestly fly tying is something I wanted to do for years. I found myself in the fly shop again today with thirty bucks worth of flies in my hand. I looked down at how many flies I had in my hand and said " that's it?". I finally just decided to make the initial investment in the basic stuff and will tie my own stuff from now on. It will also keep me from letting the t.v melt my brain.
     
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    You think your going to save money tying flies hahahahahahahahaah
     
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    cuponoodle breakfast free bird

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    In addition to tuning your casting stroke, reducing your false casts will save wear on your arm. In some circumstances you can even pick the line up and put it back out with no false cast at all. It also let's you fish more efficiently.
     
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    Daniel,

    I'm sure I have vices as well, but I think you're talking about vises when referring to the device that holds hooks for fly tying, or that bolt to your workbench for that matter. Yeah, I took up fly tying to save money too. Sometimes that notion seems questionable; however I think it actually has worked out in my favor, just not to the degree I originally estimated.

    Like Cuponoodle mentioned, a lot of new casters think they need to make 37 false casts for each cast delivered to the lawn or water. That is one way to wear out the arm prematurely, plus all the time that line is in the air, the fly is not fishing, except for bats around dusk.

    Sg
     
  15. Two handlers all dam day
     
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