A Sea Run's eating habits

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  1. Puget Sound Pimp

    Puget Sound Pimp Banned or Parked

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    Let's not be a smart ass now. You knew what the man meant.
     
  2. Richard Torres

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    I agree with Steve here. I just picked up Richards book and it has some excellent information and patterns worth checking out.
     
  3. daveypetey

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    Hmmm. I am wondering if you could indicator dead drift a somewhat similar pattern in moving water and have any luck? I will hopefully be trying it this weekend.

    Also a question for everyone, when do the chum fry enter the sound? As early as late Feb or early March?
     
  4. Roger Stephens

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    Using an indicator for dead driftinga a crab pattern should work. In the past I used an indicator to dead drift an amphipod pattern with success when a school of resident coho is feeding on the surface when eating amphipods.

    Oct.(early run timing) spawning chum normally have their fry start outmigrating by mid-March. While Nov.(normal run timing) spawning chum have their fry normally start outmigrating by early April or a little later.

    Roger
     
  5. daveypetey

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    I'll keep my thumbs crossed for an early fry run out. :D
     
  6. mbowers

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    Fair enough I should have used "one" instead of "you" as I was just raising the question: if a cutthroat only uses movement and size to determine prey why would one use anything but the simplest fly with a retrieve that keeps the fly in the zone the longest?

    I fully agree they are very opportunistic and I will happily use the same fly all day unless I'm making great casts to working fish and getting rejected more than a couple of times. Then I'm changing flies and it's not going to be to an adult crab fly. :)
     
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    Shouldn't silver fry be out even earlier?
     
  8. Pat Lat

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    chum fry move into the salt when they are still fry, I believe coho fry stay in the freshwater longer.
    Also chum often spawn in water very close to the salt, creeks like minter, chico and some of the other small creeks dont have much space for millions of little fish, so they move out into the salt while still very small.
     
  9. Stonefish

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    Kelvin,
    Just curious, what type of fish did that stomach sample come from?
    Thanks,
    SF
     
  10. kelvin

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    Website did not say
     
  11. Don Freeman

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    Who said cutthroat only use size and movement to determine prey? Not me.

    Two of the major food sources for cutthroat (per study by Dr. Joe Jacquet, not anecdotal evidence read here) are clam necks and salmonid eggs.
     
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    got a good clam neck fly?
     
  13. Mark Mercer

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    I got a great one Kelvin, a tiny bit of "white rabbit" on a little hook. A few years ago a friend said he talked to a real old guy and thats all he ever used for cutts, and said he always did well. I wouldn't be the least bit surprised.
     
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    How did he retrieve it? Or did her dead drift it?
     
  15. Mark Mercer

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    He didn't say, but I would assume dead drift or a very....very....very...slow retrieve would do the trick. I thought about trying it but never got around to it. I'm sure there are times when it might work well.