Advanced Indicator Rig Instructional Video

#76
Loved the video. I'm heading to the Ronde tomorrow. Tied up one of those indicator rigs, attaching it to my 9 wt spey, should be able to chuck it a country mile. I like the idea of the bobber stops with fly line, tied up easily. Will actually spend most of my time swinging, need to baptize the 14ft, 5 wt ACR with a fish. Weather is looking good. Hope the fishing is.

Wayne
 

Charles Sullivan

ignoring Rob Allen and Generic
#78
Daniel or the nofuckingbeads guy?
Nofuckingbeads? Is that the jackass who videotaped his failed attempts at catching steelhead? As much as video's of strikes get me pumped videos of steelheaders talking and walking are super lame. Talking and not catching is awful.

And videos of nymphers.......don't get me started.

Go Sox,
cds
 
#81
I would say for myself that T material is still fly line/tips. Weighted flies are something I don't ever really use. But if I did, I wouldn't get mad if someone told me it wasn't flyfishing. I could see that and hell, it isn't anything bad to fish gear.

Go Sox,
cds

Charles, it's interesting that you state you don't understand why people get defensive about others calling their fishing "gear fishing", yet when questioned about T-14 you instantly defend your own position on it. Why make the distinction of lead line, versus added lead? Unless of course you do care about whether or not you are labeled a "gear fisherman", in which case maybe you could relate to some people's sensativity just a bit?
 

David Dalan

69°19'15.35" N 18°44'22.74" E
#82
Loved the video. I'm heading to the Ronde tomorrow. Tied up one of those indicator rigs, attaching it to my 9 wt spey, should be able to chuck it a country mile. I like the idea of the bobber stops with fly line, tied up easily. Will actually spend most of my time swinging, need to baptize the 14ft, 5 wt ACR with a fish. Weather is looking good. Hope the fishing is.

Wayne

Bring your small stuff. I was there yesterday and today and the only guy putting up numbers was tossing a nymph rig with 12-16 naturals and 5mm beads/egg flies. I was fishing from Boggans to Wildcat (above Troy) the whole time. He was on pace to find three a day, and found 5 last Monday. I of course, wanted to swing (I can nymph all winter 15 minutes from home) and I was gifted with a trout and a 3" king.

Up where I was water is sub 50.

Lower river looks like it is doing better. Not sure about Schumaker. Snake has been good.

Have fun, the weather was glorious.
 

Derek Young

Emerging Rivers Guide Services
#83
Fished the Ronde four days last week in 60 degree weather and got the biggest fish swinging muddlers and sculpzillas on 400g. Got bored doing that, so switched to October Caddis and the catching never stopped.
 

Chris Bellows

Your Preferred WFF Poster
#86
Charles, it's interesting that you state you don't understand why people get defensive about others calling their fishing "gear fishing", yet when questioned about T-14 you instantly defend your own position on it. Why make the distinction of lead line, versus added lead? Unless of course you do care about whether or not you are labeled a "gear fisherman", in which case maybe you could relate to some people's sensativity just a bit?
leaded lines aka shooting heads have a long history in our coastal fly fishing for winter steelhead and fall salmon fishing. there would be no winter steelhead fly fishing history without anglers experimenting with shooting heads and using lead paint to try to sink a swung fly.

i will readily admit that nymphing from shore successfully requires skill. most anti-nymphing/beading comes is a result of those who just side drift all day and the closest these "fly fishermen" come to casting is moving their rods like a windshield wiper. calling that fly fishing is stretch imo.

if sinking shooting heads are not fly fishing... i owe the tofino liars club an apology with my long war against calling bucktailing fly fishing ;) .
 
#87
so, judging by that, if I fish with a bobb...I mean strike indicator and fly, I would be fly fishing anywhere except the NU? I mean, the fly fishing only waters of the Metolius allow for it, so it must be fly fishing...

These arguments never end well, are never resolved, and are completely asinine...yet I'm always strangely drawn to them in the same way people rubber-neck at a car wreck.

Which leads me into drivers...if you replace "drivers" with "random internet forum users"...well, you get the idea.

Pedro: "Hey how am I driving, man?"
Man Stoner: [looks around] : "I think we're parked, man." (like this thread)
 

Charles Sullivan

ignoring Rob Allen and Generic
#88
Charles, it's interesting that you state you don't understand why people get defensive about others calling their fishing "gear fishing", yet when questioned about T-14 you instantly defend your own position on it. Why make the distinction of lead line, versus added lead? Unless of course you do care about whether or not you are labeled a "gear fisherman", in which case maybe you could relate to some people's sensativity just a bit?
I was having the discussion. The line is somewhere and it's clearly different for many people, hence the distinction. I wasn't defending my position or opinion. I was stating what it was. I actually thought the question you posed was a good and valid one.

I am a gear fisheman. I have a boat with downriggers. It doesn't get much more gear than that. I sure do wish I was better at it and it wasn't so darned expensive. So no, I don't understand the sensativity one bit.

Go Sox,
cds
 
#89
Charles, as long as it's legal I have zero issue with anyone's method of choice. Hell, I bought 2 boats with downriggers this year, and am trying like mad to learn as much as I can. I have dreams of slabs of oily king filling my smoker next summer. For that matter, when you get the downriggers mastered let me know so I can come out and learn from ya! This is my first year really using downriggers and its a whole new world for me.

I'm just saying that you care on some level what labels people put on your fishing, as proven by the fact that you make the distinction that lead line is still fly fishing. If you didn't care, why make that statement? Why bother with the effort of defending it at all? I mean I think that ultimately you'd admit that adding a chunk of line made out of lead is not exactly at the heart of what fly fishing is all about...But of course neither is the shooting head I've used on the beaches all year, the indicators and tungsten beads I use to fish lakes, lead wrapped around a hook shank before a nymph is tied, etc... I really don't care what you want to call my methods. Ultimately I enjoy fighting fish on a fly rod more than anything else. That was what I noticed the most after getting back in to gear fishing this summer. As much fun as it was trolling for kings/silvers at Sekiu, the fight on the gear rod is just not as fun as on the fly rod. That, to me, is kinda the heart of why I "fly fish". So I don't really care what anyone calls it. But, on some level you do care, else there would be no need to make the distinction between leaded line, and leaded shot.

Anyhow, really not trying to start anything. And I'm pretty loopy on this cough syrup the doctor gave me, so don't mind me anyway. lol





I was having the discussion. The line is somewhere and it's clearly different for many people, hence the distinction. I wasn't defending my position or opinion. I was stating what it was. I actually thought the question you posed was a good and valid one.

I am a gear fisheman. I have a boat with downriggers. It doesn't get much more gear than that. I sure do wish I was better at it and it wasn't so darned expensive. So no, I don't understand the sensativity one bit.

Go Sox,
cds
 

Chris Bellows

Your Preferred WFF Poster
#90
As much fun as it was trolling for kings/silvers at Sekiu, the fight on the gear rod is just not as fun as on the fly rod. That, to me, is kinda the heart of why I "fly fish". So I don't really care what anyone calls it. But, on some level you do care, else there would be no need to make the distinction between leaded line, and leaded shot.
sinking lines are the same as split shot? what about clear intermediates with no "lead"?

a lead line (whether a full shooting head or a tip) is an integral part of the weight of the fly line needed for the cast. split shot are not which is a simple difference. the material is not the defining part, but how it is used. foam can be used on poppers, or fished deep using drift gear (corkies, etc) but i bet you wouldn't think of calling a corkie and yarn a fly or someone drift fishing with slinkies and a corky(even if using a fly rod) a fly fisherman.

as for downriggers.... keep it simple and keep fishing the gear you have (and connect the flasher to the ball) instead of constantly changing gear. have your gear ready so if you need to change anything you can do it quickly and not lose valuable fishing time. and bring coffee for when the bite is off... don't want to run aground when you fall asleep. :D
 
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