Airflo 40+ vs Rio Outbound (for switch rod)

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  1. Evan Burck

    Evan Burck Fudge Dragon

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    I've been a huge fan of the 40+ for quite a while now. It's the perfect line on my Echo switch rod. I have my 7wt SR lined up with a 9wt 40+.

    I will be demoing some new switch rods soon from an undisclosed source. I'll be getting 3 8wt switches to demo, and want to get the right line for what I'm doing. For an 8wt, I'd like to get a 10wt shooting head line, but unfortunately the 40+ only goes to 9wt in the floating version.

    How does the Outbound compare? I've never cast one personally, so any input from people who have experience with both lines would be much appreciated
     
  2. Ed Call

    Ed Call Mumbling Moderator Staff Member

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    Evan, see if you can find an Airflo 40+ Coldwater Striper line in 10wt to try. I think the head is a bit longer than the 40+ you are used to...but it will rocket. Maybe you should ask Mumbles. If you are only demo-ing them maybe I can loan you one. When do the rods arrive?
     
  3. Evan Burck

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    They will arrive in about a month. You have said striper line you say?
     
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    Ed Call Mumbling Moderator Staff Member

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    Indeed. I loved it on a TFO Deer Creek 8wt to the backing knot repeatedly. They are a kind of light yet bright blue color, super slick and I'm a big airflo fan.
     
  5. Evan Burck

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    Floating head too?
     
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    Ed Call Mumbling Moderator Staff Member

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    Full floater. No tips. You'll have to improvise that if you are going to use them. Never cast tips just fished surface and just below the surface.
     
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    If you are overhead casting the outbound, it will rock.

    If you are speycasting with it (the floating outbound)...not so much.

    The floater has a reverse compound taper that puts the weight of the head in the forward end, making it inferior to the 40+ as a spey line.
     
  8. Evan Burck

    Evan Burck Fudge Dragon

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    Good to know. I am spey casting the 40+ more often than not
     
  9. Luke77

    Luke77 I hope she likes whitefish

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    While I've not used it personally, it WILL be the next line I purchase for the switch. Speydicator.
     
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    Evan Burck Fudge Dragon

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    I've heard some mixed reviews on that one. If you get it, let me know your thoughts.
     
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    I've cast both lines (40 Plus and Outbound), but only with my single-handers. I think the Airflo line is superior. The Rio Outbound has a horrible running line.
     
  12. Evan Burck

    Evan Burck Fudge Dragon

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    I think I'm actually going to get the speydicator for this setup. After talking to Matney about it, I'm intrigued at the idea.
     
  13. Grayone

    Grayone Fishin' to the end, Oc.P

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    Now yer talking
     
  14. Luke77

    Luke77 I hope she likes whitefish

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    Yep, he sold me on it as well. :)

    My attraction to it is due to the long handling line. Sounds like it allows for mending across the river with ease...something the 40+ doesn't do well.
     
  15. Ian Broadie

    Ian Broadie Flyfishing is so "Metal"

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    6 of one 1/2 dozen of another.... I have 9wt 40+ I use on my Guidline switch in semi limited testing it nymphs, single hands, two-handed overhead, and in a pinch will even do some limited spey casting. Oh, and Rio is making a Switch rod line now... never seen it or used it but it's on their web site.