Alternate tube materials

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  1. fis_her22

    fis_her22 Member

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    A large safety pin makes a great tube adapter.....just bend it to 90 degrees open, put it in the jaws of your vice just below the bend....then slip on your tube, jamming it into the bend of the safety pin. The tube will not spin.....works great!!
     
  2. orangeradish

    orangeradish Eyes to the sky...

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    Yep. Old blind eye spey hook. Bijorn has them for a buck or 2, methinks.

    (-)limited to one size tube
    (+)a buck or 2
     
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  3. Andrew Lawrence

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    Take a couple sewing needles and using the pointed end, jam as many as it takes to get a nice snug fit into one end of the tube. However, make sure to leave at least an inch or so of the eye end of the needles exposed. At this point, you will need to secure the exposed section of the needles in your vise. If the tube feels a little bit loose, or if spins when you start tying, you can jam an additional needle in the other end to better secure it. Sometimes a tool such as a small hammer is needed in order to force the additional needle into the tube. I understand that this is not for everyone. However, I have been using this method for a couple of years and it has worked well for me.
     
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    stilly stalker Tuna sniffer

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    I hate junction tubing with a passion. theres no trailer hook effect. In stead, use a perfection loop in the end of tippet, large enough to attach a stinger hook to so it will ride past the end of your fly. THEN slide a small bead on the leader so the knot of the loop wont slide up through the tube. Thread tippet through tube, tie to leader. Some people may not like this method, but I like it WAY MORE than junction tubing and you can have tubes with a stinger hook this way.
     
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    I like this stinger hook option

    Tube holder vs stinger will depend on the fly

    Jay
     
  6. David Dalan

    David Dalan 69°19'15.35" N 18°44'22.74" E

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    I'm trying tubes (black Mickey Mouse Q-tips, with fuz scraped off) using a large sewing needle as a mandrel. I tied an 1/8th to 1/4 inch section with thread until the tube was tight when slid over the needle. Tube is slightly bigger than needle.

    Wife suggested i take a tube to the fabric store and try knitting needles, as apparently the come in all sizes.

    I think (for 100 "tubes" and the needle) I'm in it about $5.
     
  7. David Dalan

    David Dalan 69°19'15.35" N 18°44'22.74" E

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    And my "supafly" renzetti vise holds the needle firm enough to bend it in circles. A metal knitting/crochet needle could be flattened to give lesser vises a better grip (please note the sarcasm...I just love my Dirty R vise)
     
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    Where do you buy the tubing in bulk? Can you please share your online source for both PTFE and PE? Also what gauge and cell wall thicknesses do you usuall prefer?

    Thanks much,

    TR
     
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    Is there a quintessential book, aka "Bible" on tube fly tying that you prefer?
     
  10. pittendrigh

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    RE> bulk PTFE tubing.

    Years ago (mid 1980s) I made a failed attempt at wholesaling super glue to fly shops. I had some labels made that said "Sandy's Superfly"
    But between idea and implementation a year later the retail price went from five bucks a bottle to less than two. And there went the small volume profit.
    And there went me.

    The only thing I came away with was a half a dozen 100 foot rolls of tubing, in various sizes.
    I use 18 to 22 gauge for the thicker ZapAGap and 28 to 30 guage for the thinner ZapCA

    There are dozens of links out there. Here's one of many
    http://www.componentsupplycompany.c...bing-lw.html?gclid=CJa-76H-kLQCFeGDQgodW3sA6Q

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    Cut the top off a bottle of ZapAGap. Cut a slanted end on one end of a 3" length of tubing. Shove that 3" length of 20 guage tubing into the bottle so it extends all the way down to the bottom of the bottle, slanted end down. Caulk it in place with a hot melt glue gun. Now you have what chemists call a wash bottle. You squeeze the bottle to dispense the liquid (you do not tip the bottle). You can watch the glue migrate up the tube, and then release pressure slightly, just as the glue gets to the tip of the tubing. That way you can dispense tiny pin-point drops exactly where you want them. When you let go the bottle sucks the CA glue back down the tube, so it (almost) never clogs up. If the tube does clog it will ALWAYS be at the tip. So you just cut a sixteenth of an inch off the end of the tube and you're ready to go again.

    100 feet of PTFE is about 20 bucks. It makes a fine tube fly. You just have to match the right sewing needle to that tube size. The same places that sell PTFE usually sell cheaper tubing made from ................. not sure what. Polyethylene I think. That stuff would be fine for tube flies. But it is NOT slick enough for dispensing super glue. Polyethylene tubing clogs up with CA glue almost instantly. Sewing stores sell "soft sulpture" needles in various thicknesses and lengths. You can match any tubing diameter to the right needle at a good sewing store.

    ===I don't know what guage to buy for tube flies. You could research that. The smaller the guage number the bigger the tubing. 30 gauge is tiny. 10 to 14 might be about right for tube flies.
     
  11. LBC

    LBC nymphing beads with a spey pole.

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    yeah dude... this works great and its free! I experimented w/ different knots to fit inside the qtip and slide out on the grab.. then a guy told me that remote control airplane fuel line worked for junction tubing.. its the shit. really flexible and fits right over it.