Another 4 martini lunch quote...

Discussion in 'Steelhead' started by FinLuver, Mar 23, 2014.

  1. FinLuver

    FinLuver Active Member

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    Moody countered…

    “There are examples of situations, of successes like that. If you look at where the biggest are, they are typically on wildfish…. the John Day, Umpqua, the Eel River in Northern California, those are great examples of great success stories.

    “And they all don’t have hatcheries, and they don’t have dams.”
    For all the "whiners"...here's the link... :p
    http://www.statesmanjournal.com/art...nned-Native-Fish-Society-event?nclick_check=1
    Now how many dams are there on the Eel and Umpqua systems??
    NFS... geesh :)
     
  2. Travis Bille

    Travis Bille Active Member

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    I'm pretty sure the Eel river has a dam
     
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  3. Jmills81

    Jmills81 The Dude Abides

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    Board member of Three Rivers Alliance eh?
     
  4. Salmo_g

    Salmo_g Well-Known Member

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    The John Day has innumerable irrigation dams and diversions. The N. Umpqua has several hydro dams, and is stocked with hatchery steelhead. The Eel may not have a hatchery, but a tributary has one.

    FinLuver shoulda' stopped after 3 martinis.

    Sg
     
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  5. Jamie Wilson

    Jamie Wilson Active Member

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  6. JesseC

    JesseC Active Member

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    Fin is my favorite hatchery champ troll. The chronimid avatar is the icing the cake. Very subtle. Comedic ingenuity right there.
     
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    DanielOcean Active Member

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    I do not think I have ever had a martini! :confused:
     
  8. Klickrolf

    Klickrolf Active Member

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    No martooni's here but the John Day is a wonderful example. No dams, no hatcheries...but it's flow has been altered hugely by irrigation withdrawals...but the fish remain healthy and robust and strong in numbers...and I've caught alot of hatchey fish on it but there is no hatchery!!
     
  9. Joepa

    Joepa Joe from PA

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    Indeed. Lots of strays in that system, though I can't say that I've found the wild run to be very robust the last 2 years. I'd be very interested to know what the wild escapement has been the last few years on the JD.
     
  10. FinLuver

    FinLuver Active Member

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    No martinis here, can't stand them. Also, I could change my avatar, maybe a skunk or a golden demon, but you whiners couldn't handle it; besides, you would have to find another to put down...I think I'll absorb the toxin for my fellow man's sake.

    Back to the NFS...continue "diggin' a hole" with your quotes. :D
     
  11. flybill

    flybill Purveyor of fine hackle, wine & cigars!

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    So Terry... please change your avatar as you wish.. I know we can handle it! Maybe I'll come down to the NFS meeting in Portland to support them and see what your group really does first hand.

    Cheers!
    Bill
     
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  12. FinLuver

    FinLuver Active Member

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    In the city of "keepin' it weird"...one more will hardly be noticed. :p
     
  13. Bob Triggs

    Bob Triggs Stop Killing Wild Steelhead!

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    I was inspired enough by this public display of stupidity that I sent in my membership payment for the Native Fish Society right away.
     
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    Klickrolf Active Member

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    I just joined NFS too. Thought about it many times but this one forced me to become a member.

    The economcs are lost on nearly everyone. Each hatchery fish costs how much? If the fish is harvested and sells for less than it cost then it can't continue indefinitely...well, it can if it's subsidized but that means were putting good money into something that always loses.
     
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  15. jake-e-boy

    jake-e-boy sans caféine

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    Welcome to the United States governments logic regarding economics, more and more people are starting to wake up though