Any insights into my frustration?

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  1. atdwash

    atdwash New Member

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    A month ago I could throw just about anything within 20 feet of a jumping resident and I would get a strike. Not on just one outing, but consistently. All I needed to do was find some working fish and I could get into them.

    The last two outings I have again found fish, I have cast everything in my box in and around them, I continue to get many follows, but the strikes have fallen off the table. Yesterday in 3.5 hours of fishing (in and near active pods of fish) I only brought 5 fish to hand.

    Was I just spoiled last month or am I losing my mojo? Like I said, I have tried several patterns (just plain forget about poppers--they won't even look at them), and I have also been varying my retrieves.

    Any insights would be appreciated.
     
  2. DimeBrite

    DimeBrite MA-9 Beach Stalker

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    It's January, so lengthen the leader and start tossing small amphipod and krill patterns along with smaller baitfish flies for the resident coho. Also, keep a fish for dinner each time you fish and check its stomach contents to keep on top of their feeding habits.
     
  3. Jim Speaker

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    A little over a month ago I bonked a few fish and they all had empty stomachs. Shortly after that I took another and found that it had a full belly and amphipods were indeed in full swing. Up until the past couple weeks it seemed like they were just hungry as hell and would slam anything just as you said. I think they're settling into a more realistic feeding rhythm and DimeBrite is right on the money with fly choices.
     
  4. Ringlee

    Ringlee Doesn't care how you fish Moderator

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    They are still hungry as hell! These fish are IMO a lot pickier than SRC's. They wont hit anything you throw out there. Clear lines, Long leaders, and small flies.

    We did really well swinging amphipods and had some takes on gurglers. Had another Double on one rod the other day.
     
  5. herl

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    Here's what they've been eating lately around Seattle:
    rescohocontents1.jpg rescohocontents2.jpg
     
  6. miyawaki

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    Ah, you just have to love the internet. Instead of using some good ol' observation and poking around in the water to discover the change in feed, we simply type a few words. Wow!

    Leland.
     
  7. Jim Speaker

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    Well, he did poke around, Leland... and shared with the crew ;)

    Nice pics, btw, I've been tying a little too big... thanks for the post.
     
  8. atdwash

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    C'mon Leland, we are not talking about looking for specific beaches or skirting paying my dues on the water (I have been out on average almost once a week since the end of summer). This was just an observation, a little bit of a vent, and a invitation for insights/advice. What are forums like this for if not this type of discussion? AND now I won't have to bonk/dissect to see the feed (thanks Herl). So it's almost like conservation.;) Cyber-conservation.

    Thanks for the tips guys. I will go smaller with a longer leader and I'll let you know how I did (but I won't tell you what color ;)).

    And I have no problem with those of you who feel like sharing would be giving others the easy fix. That's what's great about threads like this, you are free to do (or don't do) as you please.
     
  9. hendersonbaylocal

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    small and sparse!
     
  10. Roger Stephens

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    atdwash:

    Were you by chance fishing at Doc's when you got frustrated? Over the last week or two it seems like it has been pretty common for other fly fishers to have the same experience there. It was easy to get spoiled by the ease of hooking resident coho there in the previous month or two. There are a lot of other beaches that are within easy driving distance of Doc's that are holding resident coho. Often a change of "scenery" is all that it takes to find willing resident coho.

    Resident coho are "eating machines" but from now until late summer they often are "keyed" into specific food sources. So it can be "match the hatch" situations. Like Leland said being observant of the type of surface activity which the resident coho are displaying is often the tip-off to what they are feeding on. It will help determine what fly patterns to use. In my experience, jumping resident coho = aggressive fish.

    Roger
     
  11. michaels

    michaels Flogging the water, one beach at a time.

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    atdwash- I've had the same experience recently. Both at Doc's and other beaches things have really tapered off. The fish really seem to be keying in on something other than what's in my fly box. Although there are still a few jumpers showings, there's definitely an increase in the number of fish just dimpling the surface. Amphipod and Euphasiid patterns seem to be difficult to come by in fly shops, so hopefully you can tie some yourself or find a friend to set you up.
     
  12. atdwash

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    Or... I could use another dirty trick and offer an outing on the boat tomorrow to anyone with the skills and the flies. I'm thinking about launching at Titlow (narrows marina) around 11 or noon tomorrow and fishing for a few hours. If you have some experience down that way and are free for the afternoon, shoot me a PM. All that I ask is that you have some experience and know how to cast (let's just say comfortable with the double-haul). I figure if you can do that, you know enough not to put one in my ear.
     
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    Resident coho almost always get onto euphasids and amphipods this time of year. Observing rise forms and behavior, excluding "happy" jumpers, will tell you when to get off poppers and streamers. In the winter, besides my poppers, I've always carried my "Crazy Plankton" pattern, a #10 pearl crazy charlie variation, just in case.

    Leland.
     
  14. Ringlee

    Ringlee Doesn't care how you fish Moderator

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    Hey we gave you all the info you need... Go tie up some flies and figure it out.

    The SEARCH function could help you out.
     
  15. atdwash

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    I got it. The offer in the boat today was not so much a cheap way to glean info as it was an honest offer for someone who does not usually have that opportunity. And I do thank you guys for the tips. I will put them to the test.