Any Sage LL owners?

Discussion in 'Fly Fishing Forum' started by obiwankanobi, Aug 26, 2010.

  1. oldskool

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    I built a 4wt, 9ft with the late John Propp. Great rod, still use it today. Didn't know that they were selling for more.
     
  2. obiwankanobi

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  3. Kirk Singleton

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    I just checked. Mine is a 379LL 2 piece. original edition.
     
  4. Kent Lufkin

    Kent Lufkin Remember when you could remember everything?

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    I saw that rod too and my first reaction was the price seems pretty high, which may be why it's still for sale. As a comparison, my friend paid $165 last summer for his 379LL. He got it along with a Sage click reel with an extra spool for just over $300. Admittedly, he got a deal. But I think a reasonable price for a good condition original LL would be in the $300-$350 range these days, plus or minus a bit.

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  5. obiwankanobi

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    Kent,

    I was talking a fly shop owner today that sold a friends 4711 LL for $565 to a buyer in Bozeman without even having to auction it off on Ebay. A 490 LL is currently at $490 right now on Ebay with over 2 days left until the auction closes. The average price, assuming its a 3 piece or 4 seems to be right around this range so since your friend was able to purchase his below this price, he got a great deal.

    Just a quick check on CL today and a person locally has a WTB add for a 379 LL so this only provides more evidence about the current demand for this rod.

    What is interesting is that many claim that this rod has a similar action to that of a bamboo rod so given the inflated price, I wonder why more people just don't buy a grass rod.
     
  6. Porter

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    I thought the same thing about the 389-4 LL being a refigured 4 piece and the originals were 2 and 3 piece, but I have seen a 4 piece 4 weight for auction on ebay. I was surprised but the pictures were very clear it was a 4 weight (written/logo, clearly marked 490-4) and a 4 piece. I tried to research it a little but came up empty. It is the only time I have seen one, which amazes me some for all the websites I visit and look at older gear.
     
  7. Todd Connelly

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    I have a 389-2 LL And like others have stated I'll never sell it. There is nothing like a fast action rod if you absolutely have to bomb out a long cast. But 90% of the time you don't. And a classic action rod (to me) is much more pleasant to cast under those much more common conditions. My 6wt. is a J. Kennedy Fisher GT40 IM6 and my 9wt is a J.K.F classic graphite so yeah I'm a fan of the slower actions. I have every confidence that when more people get a chance to cast these classic action rods and they come to the realization that faster and faster actions isn't necessarily the answer they will drive the manufacturers to produce more of them. Just like I have every confidence that people will realize that neoprene waders really weren't that bad and drive the manufacturers to start selling those again too :).

    Cheers..................Todd
     
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    Oh...to get back to the original point...it is a great casting/fishing rod. I have one of the 389-4 re-issued rods. Unlike any sage rod I have ever casted. Sweet slower action and the bend from a 12" :thumb: I have tried a few lines on this rod , but come back to the 444 peach. It was said that sage made a winstonisque trout rod...and this was the one. I have not played with some of the older winston rods.....but the LL is a cut above the B2X IMHO.
     
  9. Alexander

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    I personally dig the Sage TXL - such a nice rod, probably my favorite of all the rods I've fished with.
     
  10. Steve Vaughn

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    My first graphite rod in making the transition from bamboo was a Sage GFL 690 LL (graphite II), which I still fish on occasion. While it did a great job on Delaware River (NY) browns and rainbows, I used it for bass and even caught my first Great Lakes steelhead on it. While I love the way it presents a dry fly, most of my fishing is with nymphs and it reminds me of a graphite version of my bamboo nymphing rod, a Pezon et Michel parabolic. Just before taking a 10-year break from fly fishing to retry a music life I bought a 4711 LL (graphite III). Since returning to sanity and fly fishing in our new home in Washington this little 4 wt is my go to rod for places like the Tucannon, Touchet and Naches Rivers. Had no idea I was fishing classics, which is an interesting concept for someone who started in bamboo. I've been feeling quite behind the times with my old 2-piece rods; maybe I shouldn't. Of course, maybe I should be looking into how I can turn these rods into a pontoon boat. Hmmmmmmm.
     
  11. Jim Corsetti

    Jim Corsetti H20 - the elixir of life

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    I have three of the 389 LLs. Two of them are two-piece that my brother wrapped as a matching wedding presents for my wife and I, 15 years ago. I have a great brother.

    The other is one of the original production 389LL - 3 piece. I will not part with any of them, they are a joy to cast, and a thrill to fight a fish on. I love 'em.
     
  12. fifafu

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    My friend Ferber and I were heading for the Rose Bowl in 1990. We stopped by anglers workshop to check out some rod bulding stuff he was interested in. I spotted a 490LL blank in a garbage can on the front porch for $25.

    Still my favorite rod.
     
  13. Rick Todd

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    Kerry-I'm the same as you. I have a 389 LL that is the perfect rod for a small river like Kelly Creek, or the upper Skagit (above Ross Dam) especially if the wind isn't blowing. I also have a 590 SP that I basically use for new fly fishers as it is a forgiving action. My wife uses it a lot. Since a lot of my trout fishing is on bigger rivers and with occasional wind thrown in, my go to rods are a 590 XP, a 690 Z-Axis, or even my 790 GLX. I also have a vintage Sage RPL+ 590 that I love for throwing heavy nymphs. My point is that is it pretty easy to switch from a slow action to a fast action by altering your casting tempo, and each tool has its place. It does feel weird to fish something like a Sage XI2 8 wt all day and pick up the LL and try to cast it, but soon your casting stroke adjusts! Rick
     
  14. Don Freeman

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    Mine is made from a blank kit I got at Morning Hatch when I was teaching a rod building class 20 some years ago. It was listed as a 4/5, and is a two piece, of course. It's under 8' long, but I don't really know what model it is, as there are no markings on the blank. One of you savvy collectors could probably narrow it down, however, no one touches it but me. Ever.

    They really are superb.
     
  15. dryflylarry

    dryflylarry "Chasing Riseforms"

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    I use a 279LL, 2 wt. It is 7'9". I love it. I landed a beautiful 19" coastal cutt on it last month or two ago. Sweet rod.....sweet.