Anyone do bamboo?

Discussion in 'Bamboo, Fiberglass & Classic Reels' started by Shane Stewart, Jul 27, 2005.

  1. Shane Stewart

    Shane Stewart Friend of Wild Fish

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    I got the bug :eek:
    Here is a new rod that was built by Mike Hoffman from Tualatin, Oregon. It's a Dickerson 8013 taper 8 foot and throws a 5 weight
    The other Hoffman rod (with reel attached) is a Payne 100 taper 7'6" and throws a 4 weight
     

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  2. Tim Cottage

    Tim Cottage Formerly tbc1415

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    Beautiful.
    It looks like either you or Mike is a fan of Bellinger components.
    If I ever get around to building cane rods, I would make the same choices.
    Did he use their ferrules also?

    TC
     
  3. Kent Lufkin

    Kent Lufkin Remember when you could remember everything?

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    Nice color choice for the translucent wraps over the blonde cane. I had a couple of Mike Brooks' rods (he's from Eugene) with a similar Bellinger seat but blued instead.

    K
     
  4. 2 Much Fishin

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    Very good looking rod!

    I was recently bit by the bamboo bug as well. The first time I cast a bamboo rod, it surprised me how much fun and how well they cast. It also surprised me that you can buy a fishable work of art that is 60 years old for less money than some modern graphite rods. Fishing with something like that really makes me think about all of the people that have fished my rod in the past and the current events of their day.

    If you want to protect fine tippets and cast with super delicate presentations, bamboo does that well. And when you hook a fish, it is a feeling that cannot be replicated with graphite!

    Jed
     
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    papafsh Piscatorial predilection

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    Ahhhh, the stuff that dreams are made of! my dreams anyway.

    A beautiful pair of rods to be sure, one day soon I'm gonna get me one of those boo rods.

    LB
     
  6. Davy

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    simply beautiful instruments, kudo's !!!!
     
  7. Kent Lufkin

    Kent Lufkin Remember when you could remember everything?

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    Jed's point is well-taken. Despite the common misconception that bamboo rods are delicate and easily broken, nothing could be more wrong. He and I both fish with exquisite cane rods that are pushing 60 years old. And with reasonable care, they'll last another 60 years.

    In truth we're not consumers of these beautiful fishing tools so much as their caretakers and custodians. Our responsibility is to treat them with respect and dignity and then to pass them along to future generations of appreciating owners who will in turn wonder about the fish we caught with them.

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  8. Canedawg

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    I love bamboo. I have 3 Wright Mcgill Granger rods,and a Phillipson. They are med fast action rods. The great thing about bamboo is you can feel the rod load on the backcast. It is an something I could not feel with graphite. I have also recently got into Glass rods. I have two 5# Phillipson 8 footer that are very powerful rods. I rarely fish graphite and do not miss it a t all. Like Kent said ,it is awesome to be able to fish a beautiful rod that has power history,and asthetics,and pay less then new graphites. Not mention the bamboo rods hold their value. :ray1:
     
  9. Davy

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    Except for when throwing the big nymphs ( which was most of time unfortunatly) I used my cane rods ( 4,6,7 wts in Montana and Idaho all spring. They performed great . It's like they cast themselves rather than you providing all the action,direction and speed.IMO, they simply roll the line out there like no other rod ever made. My W&M 8 1/2' 9 wt is now refinished and I hope to use it this winter if I get my legs back. I just got to go get it.LOL
     
  10. Kent Lufkin

    Kent Lufkin Remember when you could remember everything?

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    Not sure I agree with that last part though. While *some* graphites cost more than cane rods, the vast majority do not. The process of building a graphite rod is far simpler and more adaptable to mass production than that of building a bamboo rod. As a result, the market is flooded with inexpensive graphite rods.

    At the same time the market for bamboo rods has heated up considerably over the past several years. Average to low-end cane rods that could be found for $50 to $100 in 1995 now fetch $300 to $500. Good quality vintage rods from Granger, Orvis, and Phillipson in good condition easily cost as much as a Sage TCR, sometimes far more depending on their condition and scarcity. I watched a 1950s Granger Special with the grip still wrapped in its original plastic sell on eBay for $1700. Rare high-end rods like Dickersons and Paynes now sell for as much as some new cars.

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  11. Tim Cottage

    Tim Cottage Formerly tbc1415

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    While the above statement is definately true, there is another side to the coin that is often over looked by people not familiar with bamboo.
    That is power.
    Beginning last summer, I have been using an 8 1/2ft, 8wt Orvis for summer steelheading. Loaded with a 7wt long belly floating line this rod can easily (and I mean easily) push out 80+ ft with less effort than most graphite. In the hands of a better caster, it would cast the whole line with no problem.
    Long mends? Easy. Power to subdue heavy fish quickly? Absolutely. Sink tips? Like a rocket launcher.
    At the same time, it retains the feeling of grace and sensitivity inherent in bamboo.
    There are many cane rods that can do this.

    TC
     
  12. raincityrod

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    Not to change the subject (much) if anyone has a 4wt. bamboo rod (beloved) they are contemplating moving on to the next steward. I would like to talk to you, especially if you live in the Seattle area. Thank's Rod
     
  13. Kent Lufkin

    Kent Lufkin Remember when you could remember everything?

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    Fishing bamboo allows one the perspective of viewing our sport over the long haul instead of just the recent past. For example, until the mid-1970s if you bought a trout rod, bamboo or fiberglass, it was most likely a 6wt, with only the occasional 5wt Granger providing the 'light line' alternative. 4wts were unheard of and 3wts undreamed of. So if you're in the market for a 4wt, it'll most likely have to be a relatively new rod and most likely well under 8' in length. If you're in the market for a vintage rod, especially one 8' or longer, it'll most likely end up being a 6wt.

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    Regarding prices.

    Dunsmuir Rod Company rods start at around $1500. Not sure on other "new" cane rods.
     
  15. 2 Much Fishin

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    I am relatively new to bamboo, but for the last 6 months I have been following the prices closely and just like anything else, you can spend as much or as little as you would like. For current rod-makers $1500 is right in the middle of the range and for vintage rods, you can pick up a production rod in good shape for under $500. You can also easily spend thousands & thousands on some vintage rods.