Discussion in 'Spey Clave' started by golfman65, Feb 1, 2011.
Holy shit. That's the funniest thing I have ever read, ever.
I'm fishing Sat. AM. If you'd like to follow me through some runs, I can almost guarentee succes.
LOL, I do this all the time. Just sit at the desk at my home office with a reel, spinning the handle. My wife thinks I'm going off the deep end...
Well ifn you gotta go off the deep end there are certainly worse ways to go. Click, click, click, click.
Funny stuff, and tempting but it's sub regional wrestling tourny @ squalicum sat. good luck bro
Redshed, I take solace in your signature line, if you witnessed my casting you might puke, but it works on occasion.
I took your advice Micheal and went out and re-greased my old bougles with some fancy red grease...sat down and worked um for awhile....even tied a couple flies, smoked a big stogie and polluted my lungs from the gym...
I sometimes read these sites and it seems like the guys who were there in the beginning of it all..the real old timers have gone underground and what's left are guys who only seem to worry about cashing in on it as much as they can...Guys who I consider almost mercenary write some total drivel and everyone is all gushing choking on their bones so hard its sick...
I think of what I started with and how long it's taken me to get to these first few steps on my journey...a long time to appreciate some things and understand what some of the old timers were telling me but that I had to find out for myself....to accumulate some skill and understanding of gear etc. and learn to fish it effectively...and come around to some items that I scoffed at as "old slag metal and rivets" for example....Used to be that's how it was...now it's about getting all that first..before you even know what it is or the how's and why's of using it....like lets see if we can all show up with this stuff...cut all the corners off learning....and look at me...I'm a steelheader!!! Fuck I'm a gear ho big time but I don't care so much what others got....I've seen so many guys on the rivers that have all of that...seen um cast and walked away...Thought back to when if you walked out with all kinds of fancy gear and couldn't cast or knew what you were doing you'd get laughed off the river...Now not so....yet no one asks what to me is the most important question when you meet another guy....
"Can I see your fly box"? What are you using out here? what color do you think works on this river? Guys will argue all over the sites that color doesn't mean shit but on some rivers I firmly believe it can make all the difference and sometimes maybe not so much....We are fly fisherman but no seems to care about the fly....
I would bet that no matter what gear someone is using or wearing...a quick look in their fly box will tell you everything you need to know....about them..about whether or not their new to this...about what is important to them by what they're using...about where they are at on this journey as a whole....I see someones box and see some just wicked flies in it....I want to sit down and talk to this guy..If he'll let you, and most do...they don't seem in as much of a hurry as everyone else...they'll show you a couple boxes and tell you how they started with this and then went to that...maybe about how they finally came around to beginning and only fish classic's...cause they mean something to them....Guys like this have caught hundreds and sometimes thousands of fish...I know I've been lucky enough to meet a few....but then...we don't have to do that...we can stick a long rabbit strip on a piece of string and a hook and a bead maybe...that's all you really need to catch fish!!! Fuck...Is that why everyone is out here now????
Seems ...it's about what new tip is out there..what line so and so uses...Hey did you see how far he can cast.. Who's rod looks coolest, casting it is secondary...Hey how much did your reel cost..not what's it like when a fish is running? What do you do when the fish is screaming down river and your hand is going up and down...Oh that's why they call it shaking hands with a fish??? Can you palm it? Is the drag any good when it's wet or cold...Will it take a beating and still perform? Nope show up with a perfect and your in the club!!! Hell I'm just still considering one..and after that St. George I'm not so sure anymore...but what do I know?
It's cool when you run into guys and they say..."We need a plan" We need to look at a run and decide before we fish it how we're going to fish it...Same thing I've been thinking all along...You start here...go big go small, cast in close don't spook the water..learn to cast a skagit or whatever line your using, without having to do snaps and pokes and rip the shit out of it so every fish in the run will hide....Good to meet guys who you don't have to babysit, who you turn around and notice are staring at something up river...wander off for an hour and come back with a big shit eating grin cause they got a fish somewhere no one else thought to look...Even cooler when that guy is you once in awhile....Nice when a guy will say...Hey you go first...I got one yesterday or last week or last run...let's get you something...guys who will give a good fly away to a newbie who has a box of junk...Shit like that is what makes this sport for me....and meeting guys who are like minded....The gear is fun and all but the water is what you got to learn first...everything else is secondary...
Shit, listen to me....I talk too much...most of this will probably just piss off the masses anyways....sounds like some preacher telling everyone their all going to hell....when he's been screwing the choir...
Might be why the old timers are silent...they have heard all this before as well and finally just got tired of it too...I'm too much of a newbie to be here but I sure feel like it's been a long time some days...
Just thankful for a site where you can vent and not get banned for naughty words or kicking the stool out once in awhile ...maybe....I hope...
Excellent post Golfman,
I especially like this paragraph...
I'm stuck here in Florida 'till March, but I'm learning all I can before I move back to the PNW. Grew up in Eastern Oregon with a trout stream running through the property and a misspent youth wasted on upland game hunting and fishing. Don't know how many dinners and lunches I ate cold 'cause I was on the water pursuing fish far away when Mom shouted that chow was ready.
I know where the fish are. I know what they like, and where they hide, and I've caught many, many of them with both gear and single handers..but now I want to learn to use a spey rod. I won't show up on the river with one 'till I've learned enough to send a fly to where the fish are..and it may not be pretty but I'll learn and get better at it.
You'll know me when you see me, I'm the tall skinny bald guy with the Aussie hat and cheap neoprene waders (till I can afford better ones)...I'm the guy that's sitting on the bank absorbing everything you do if you're any good at it. I'll be cheering you on if you hook one while I watch.
I'm the guy that'll wander off instead of following you through the run and fish the deserted parts of the river, in places some might think marginal or useless, but show promise when I look at them, 'cause I know fish have to pass through there to get to the honey holes.
I'm the guy with $500 in my rod and reel because I don't feel the need to get caught up in the whole Hardy Perfect thing...though I'll probably compliment you on the fine piece of equipment you're using.
I won't be in the least embarrassed by my own equipment.
I may ask you for a pointer on my casting...but I won't ask you where the fish are...that part I already have down cold.
I hope I meet you on the river one day, I'd be proud to fish with you!
Golfman...sorry I neglected to show...showing reveals that I am very new to this. Having not yet established the flies that work best from the clutter here.
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and you saw this...
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this one was in my bag with another line to try...
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I've never fondled a Hardy Perfect, the hardy reels I've held did not jump out and grab me. I like the price point, look and sound of the J. W. Young and Sons 1500 series though, I like them a lot, and can palm them...should the occasion ever finally present itself.
Oh, and I have a plan. I'll put the plan into action whenever my family responsibilities allow. Thus far it is not a rock solid plan, but I'm stepping through the plan, one pool, run or riffle at a time...
Hope today you are feeling better and no longer worrying about what anyone thinks of you, or themselves, fancy or budget gear included. If you want that Perfect, find it, fish it and enjoy it. Who gives two shits about what anyone else thinks?
thanks. I/we needed that.
Hi Chris. Sent you a PM on the wrestling stuff.
Thomas, you must be very proud of your daughter.
Golfman, good post, sometimes we just gotta vent. Just a thought, but maybe the reason those old timers are silent is they know we all gotta come to those realizations for ourselves ( if we ever do!). Anyway I hope to meet you someday on the river, you sound like a guy a could share a run with.