Discussion in 'Saltwater' started by DIXIESTEELHOUND, Aug 16, 2005.
So how were the fry counts for the Skagit System?
A friend of mine picked up a couple of smaller ones off the beach on Whidbey on Monday. I'll be out early Thurs. if I see or get anything I'll post.
With the rain this AM and the forecast for cooler weather the next few days and the days becoming shorter hopefully our warm stream temperatures are behind us and we can enjoy a productive fall of salmon, sea-run, and steelhead fishing.
Have my fingers crossed that run sizes and timing for the fall salmon populations will be "normal" rather than what we have seen to date with the spring/summer returns of chinook.
Deep Trout -
The fry counts while down consideably from the last several cycles were much higher the expected given the devasting floods of October 2003. The thinking was that the flood was so early that a significant portion of the run spawned after the flood, especially in some of the tribs which obivously had more water than normal. The forecast is for a run of 475,000 pinks or about 1/4 to 1/3 of the 2003 run size. The Skagit escapement goal is 330,000 so you can see that there should be enough for limited fisheries.
The pinks I have seen to date as well as the average size reported in the Canadian test fisheries have been normal size for pinks that is about a 4 pound average with fish ranging from 2 to 6 #s or so. The last couple of cycles (espeically 2001) the pinks were exceptionally large and I think we have gotten an unrealistic expectation of what size they should be . Prior to 2001 in 40 years of fishing them my personal best was less than 8 #s however in 2001 I got 8#ers daily and rarely the best fish of the day was less than 10#s - an unbelieveable year.
Why I was fishing is a fair question. I learned the water temperature by being on the river and to be honest, I quit fishing after I released that fish. That humpy was holding in really fast steelhead water. I haven't been out since.
The skykomish has been running at 75-year low levels. Probably the bit of rain will help and none of this is an issue, but I don't think it is a stupid idea to shut down a river when it is that abnormally low and hot.
From my point of view, this really has nothing to do with "legislating ethics".
Good response Tony.
I know at times when the passion for pursuing a planned fishing trip outstrips my mental ability to process anything other than the mantra rodreelflysbootssunscreenhatglassescamera.... It takes the reality of being in the water, then having a fish being hard to resucitate, to make me stop and finally think, shit, the water is to warm for these guys to recover well. The responsible thing to do at that point is to reel in kick back and enjoy the scenery and beautiful day.
I gotta get me a stream thermometer. Anybody use those thermometers you put on your boot laces, and are they any good?
Yeah Jim I understand that and it has happened to me a few times...that being said I have never heard of, seen, or practised myself the art of "plunking" for steelhead and that's what some of these folks were doing. In the huge area of Thomas Eddy. Unless I'm clueless I don't associate "plunking" with steelhead fishing.
That's just me.
I'm heading out this Friday with the wife and we are going to hit the lower middle stretches of the Snoho.
Scott, are you serious? Plunking is HUGE with steelheaders. That's where they get the winter plunking shacks along the lower rivers. Plunkers bars and holes are on all rivers I've fished - usually in the lower stretches where drift fishing isn't so good. They build their little fire, sit back in their lawn chairs and drink beer or whatever, BS with eachother, while their huge 4oz pyramid lead weight holds their spin n glow and shrimp just right in the traveling lane of approaching steelhead. Of course they do it for other fish too (salmon), but plunking for steelhead is huge around here...
Well like I've always said, I learn something new everyday... :beathead:
i caught 2 on flies at sekiu this morning and lost 2 others. the guys with me caught 6 and 1 coho. the traffic in seattle was insane. way too many people. mike w
Chad,you have it all wrong on the sinkers. They use 8 oz ones, a 4 oz wouldn't hold a size 2 spin and glow with a big gob of eggs attached in the faster water.
Am I the only one who noticed that chadk hit the 2000-post milestone?
I noticed that yesterday too . I have a looooong way to go.
I need a different job.
I didn't notice. What a lame post for my 2000th one...
Yeah,about as lame as my 6000th one