Discussion in 'Fly Tying' started by Jon Brengan, Feb 14, 2012.
AM I the only one that owns a Vosseler? Such a sexy vise!
Yes you are so right it is a sexy design for sure, but wont hold bigger hooks.
How big you talking? Size 2
I acquired a vosseler in trade recently after just getting back into tying. I found that I had a hell of a time figuring out the jaws. Just could not seem to find the trick to holding a hook solidly. Mine has the smaller jaws that days they are good down to size 14. I tried some size twelve scud hooks and natural bend hooks and just didn't get it to work right. Shortly after I ended up with a nor vise which I freaking love so I haven't messed with it anymore. If I can get a feel for it I may keep it for a travel vise. If not it'll be in the classifieds. Sure is cool looking!
Nor Vise is pretty much heaven, I give you that. I love the Vosseler though and use it at shows. The small jaws actualy hold my #32's and the larger jaws are a hole. Stick the hook through the hole and tighten, it isn't going anywhere. I have put a #2 hook in it and that was as big as I go. and about as big as my Renzetti will go as well.
I also like that you can put the jaw any where you want...LOL
Oh and it sticks to a windshield really well.
my first vise was a pair of vicegrips in 1955 in cheney. it was held in place by a big catalog. my bobbin was my hand. and the williams lake special was born. the wa limit was 12 and the idaho limit was 20. mike w
I've been using a Thompson model A my old man gave me 50 years ago. I have no idea how many thousands of flies I've tied over those 5 decades on that old vise, but it's never given me a bit of trouble. I'm going to pop for a Nor-Vise, the bobbin, spare spools, bench clamps, and small jaw accessories. Who knows, maybe I'll just end up using the Nor-Vise in a fixed position (just like the old vise). Of course the Thompson ain't leaving my bench either.
Hard to say what vise to get. The NOR-VISE is a wonderful design and a great quality product. I tried one, didn't like it, and sold it. I didn't care for the permanent fixed horizontal position and the fixed thread post which always seemed to be in the way. I also found it difficult to get good access to the hook with my fingers especially on smaller flies. These dislikes are just my personal preferences. Over the years, I've owned and tried a lot of vises: Renzetti Presentation, Regal, Dyna King, HMH etc. There are so many good ones out there. Best suggestion: go to the shops, the shows, friends etc. and try 'em out. I still tie on a vise I bought in 1963. It was one of - maybe the first?? - rotary vises that I know of. It was made by Universal Vise Co. who also sold fly tying tools and materials. Some of the old timers out there will remember Universal. Anyway, the vise has been modified (improved) over the years but still does the job. I recently found another so I'll have parts. And, it is not a fixed position so I can make it horizontal for rotary tying or angle the jaws for comfortable tying while still being able to rotate. My 2012 letter to Santa will contain only one item: A Dyna King Ulitmate Indexer Vise!
I switched t the Nor-vice and wont use anything else. Tons of add on parts and the retractable bobbins are the greatest. A little awkward to use at first but after watching the video and tying a few flies I got the hang of it quickly
I suggest trying them out. A few years ago I read all of the forums and reviews and narrowed it down then tried a few. I settled on the Renzetti 4000 because it worked best for me. I have no complaints after a few years and no desire to get a different vise. I tie from Rocky Ford (size 22) to Steelhead (size 1.5) on mine with the same set of jaws.
Dave, you said it perfect. I would love a Nor Vise, but I have been using a Renzetti for many years and it works not only for me, but with me. I just can't justify buying one to replace what is perfect for me no matter how flippin cool Nors are.
I have tied on a basic Griffin for around 30 years and recently got a Griffin Blackfoot Mongoose. The rotary feature is worth its weight in gold! Don't know how I got along without it! I am definitely a fan of the hook holding system that Griffin uses- you will never have a hook slip or come loose and it will never wear out.
My 2 cents worth is: I been a commercial fly tier for at least 25 years if not more, I started on Regal vices the day they were available, and have never looked back....Didn't have too, the Regal is simple, easy and it works 5 hours a day for me. Good luck