Bamboo or... Seahawks?

Discussion in 'Fly Fishing Forum' started by Jim Speaker, Aug 29, 2013.

  1. Kent Lufkin

    Kent Lufkin Remember when you could remember everything?

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    Congrats on the new (almost) cane rod. Tim's exactly right: it should be a real, big-water rocket launcher.

    As a thought, TT lines aren't for everybody. One of the rubs on them is that their taper is such that they're outstanding at long casting distances but don't load the rod at short distances. I personally don't care for them, but I know a number of folks who love them.

    When you evaluate the rod during your 5-day window, you may wish to try it out with as many different lines as you can put your hands on to help eliminate variables associated with particular tapers. As you probably remember, I have a number of different 6wt lines and will be happy to meet up to try them out. Shoot me a PM to coordinate.

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  2. Jim Speaker

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    PM sent. Thanks! Been too long anyways.
     
  3. Jim Speaker

    Jim Speaker Active Member

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    AGGGGHHHHH!!! It did not come as hoped... guess I have to wait til Tuesday now. Bummer :(
     
  4. flybill

    flybill Purveyor of fine hackle, wine & cigars!

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    And it won't be the fly rod!
     
  5. Jim Speaker

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    She came today! Based on a Paul Young 15 taper, this Bill Critchfield is a gem. With a type-3 WF 6-weight line I was quickly throwing 70+ feet at the park... and being a very sub-optimal line I quickly went "yep!"

    A run down to Avid Angler got me not only great conversation, but a Wulff Triangle Taper 6 weight strung on a spool that was just waiting for me to say "yep!" I've heard (thanks Kent) that Wulff triangles sometimes get bit of thumbs down when at short distances, but for short distance stuff i.e. dries I was floating down yarn fully extended with my five weight spool up to 50 feet, at which point I could tell I was no longer loading. Moved to my 6-weight type-3. I think it's going to be just a matter of letting the rod do the talking, and man she's a sweet talker!

    The parabola and such was a non-issue. Must be my affinity for full and mid-flex graphite of which I have a handful. Timing? Loading? Let the rod do the talking. Did I mention she's a sweet talker? Perfect.

    I can't wait to get out on the grass or preferably water and see what the Wulff line will do on this baby. 80? 90? Maybe the whole line once I get use to the rod... Time will tell - and soon!

    Yet another picture of her sans-fish... but they will be coming. :)

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  6. Tim Cottage

    Tim Cottage Formerly tbc1415

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    It often comes as a complete and pleasant surprise to many people new to bamboo that some cane rods can really sling a lot of line with very little effort, just as some graphite rods can do the same. Once you get over the distance thing there is much more to the full para design to explore. They tend to be outstanding roll casters. Some of them give you the option to consciously isolate which part of the rod you want to flex most. Tip or butt or both. The stiff mid and a varied stroke allows you to do this.

    After you've spent some time with this rod and you would like to experience other para type tapers just let me know. I have a good variety of them that you are welcome to try.

    TC
     
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  7. Jim Speaker

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    Sounds great, Tim. I was noticing already (in the park on the grass briefly with a type 3 WF...) aside from it easily shooting a good deal of line that it had a very powerful roll cast. The rod just had excellent turnover. I'm really looking forward to fishing this rod!
     
  8. Richard Olmstead

    Richard Olmstead BigDog

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    Looks like a sweet rod, Jim.

    I'm a relative novice with bamboo, but after trying several tapers over the past couple of years (thanks, Tim, Kent, Mike), I opted to have Mike Monsos build me a parabolic 14, 7'9" for 5 wt. I don't fully understand the physics of it, like Tim does, but one of the features of this rod that it does better than any other rod I've cast, is the ability to pick the line off the water, and with one back cast, lay it right back out exactly where I want it to. I also found that, the first day I took it out on a lake, sitting low in the water in a float tube, once my arm got tired after fighting with it for an hour or more, I started to relax and I cast much better. Unlike a lot of graphite rods and some bamboo tapers, it really doesn't take well to forcing it to do what you want it to do.

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  9. Jim Speaker

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    Thought I'd post a couple photos now that the bamboo and new reel have a little NW mojo...

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    If you recognize this foggy lake, DO NOT say the name of it.

    Cheers
     
  10. Joe Goodfellow

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    You only shot line with graphite you cast with bamboo.
     
  11. Jim Speaker

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    No, I am sure the bamboo shoots line too... :)
     
  12. Greg Armstrong

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    ...very nice!
     
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  13. Jim Wallace

    Jim Wallace Smells like low tide.

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    I saw that rod/reel in person when I fished a lake with Jim a couple of weeks ago. It was so sweet looking that I declined to even touch it, for fear of leaving an oily heathen fingerprint on its finish, or infecting it with my cursed variable juju.
    It was really purty to behold, though!:cool:
     
  14. Jim Speaker

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    Bah, it's a rod. It is meant to be handled and catch fish! Just wait til a little blood gets on it... :)
     
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  15. Jim Wallace

    Jim Wallace Smells like low tide.

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    As long as the blood is not your own, then its OK.;)

    Seahawks? I've been following the pro surfing contest circuit online. Looks like the next World Champ will be determined at the Pipeline Masters on Oahu in early Dec. It will be either Kelly Slater for his 12th World title (must take 1st place to cinch the title), or Mick Fanning, who only has to place in the top finalists there to claim the World title (due to accumulated total points) if Slater doesn't take 1st place.
    If Slater only takes second place, or worse, at the PipeMasters, then Fanning only needs a 13th place at Pipeline to get the world title.
    In fact, even if Slater wins the Pipe Masters, Fanning can still take the World Title with a 3rd place or better showing at the Pipe.
    The pressure is on Slater, as he has no wiggle room. He not only has to win at the Pipe Masters, but also hope that Fanning only gets a 4th place or worse, in order to achieve his 12th World Title.