Bamboo Use

Discussion in 'Bamboo, Fiberglass & Classic Reels' started by freestoneangler, Aug 27, 2013.

  1. Greg Armstrong

    Greg Armstrong OldRodsHaveMoreFun

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    Which, in the case with your rod being that it is an Orvis, it will most likely behave best with a 6wt. line (or "HDH" to keep it old school speak).
    But as has been said above, try different lines on it to see what feels best for you.
    In answer to your original question "where and when...". As others here have said as well, I use bamboo rods almost 100% of the time. Freshwater, salt (your Orvis impregnated is a great beach rod!), trout, searun cutthroats and salmon, bass and bluegills. I use them for everything except tropical trips like Kenneth had said (but I really want to get my next bonefish on bamboo!).
    Here's one of many Puget Sound beach searuns I've caught on an Orvis rod similar to yours, although in a 3/2 config'. The rod shows no sign of ever being used in the salt although I've used it there a lot; beach searun.JPG

    Fish your bamboo rod. It's what it was made to do.

    Oh, and if you go to the link that Kent provided Greg (the guy that runs that site) can provide you with detailed info' on everything about your rods origins and register it there for you as well.
     
  2. freestoneangler

    freestoneangler Not to be confused with Freestone

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    #29896 is listed. I remember looking this up shortly after I got the rod, though really didn't know anything about the heritage line weight numbering system (still don't). I had come to the conclusion it was a 6 weight and loaded the Medalist up with a 444 WF6...seems to cast well...but if it's a 7 wt, maybe underlined?
     
  3. Greg Armstrong

    Greg Armstrong OldRodsHaveMoreFun

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    Orvis bamboo rods are often found to work best when underlined by one line size.
    Here's a conversion chart I've found helpful;

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    freestoneangler Not to be confused with Freestone

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    Cool...looks like I guessed right. I do have a V3 with a WF7, so I'll see how it casts with that line. Now another question for you natural fiber aficionados -- do you use the same modern reels that you use (used) with your graphite rods or old school, classic reels?

    Why do I get the sudden feeling that my wallet is about to get lighter? :eek:
     
  5. Greg Armstrong

    Greg Armstrong OldRodsHaveMoreFun

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    Old school classic.
    I paired my '60's Battenkill with a Hardy Perfect of the same vintage for this outing;
    Battenkill.JPG

    It's fun to fish these too, though. A Dingley Perfect clone;
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    And a Young 15A;
    P1000017.JPG P1000018.JPG
    There are more, but as you can see this can be a very slippery slope. But it's oh so satisfying to go back in time and fish with these handcrafted tools!
     
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  6. Kent Lufkin

    Kent Lufkin Remember when you could remember everything?

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    Thanks for sharing Greg. The conversion from the old letter line weight codes to modern numerical codes can often be confusing. I currently have a half dozen vintage Orvis impregnated rods in my closet. Unlike my plastic rods, I've found that they all cast best, at least to me, when lined as suggested.

    Battenkills were made in a variety of different lengths, number of sections and ferrule widths. As a result they were marked for lines anywhere from a 5wt to an 8wt. While personal preference trumps anything else in how one feels about a particular rod's action, I'd strongly suggest trying several different lines and weights before settling on a particular weight.

    K
     
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    This is a great thread!

    I think I read somewhere that Orvis line recommendations are based on weight-forward lines, whereas most folks involved with bamboo rods use double taper lines as the standard. So, a rod that Orvis designates as a "6-weight" might be more like a "5-weight" taper by other rod makers. I've never had an Orvis rod or made one using an Orvis taper, so others may want to verify whether this is really the case.

    The conversion tables from the old letter-based line sizes usually work well, but remember that the letters represented line diameter, whereas the modern line designations are based on weight. So, you really need to try rods with different lines.

    Tom
     
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  8. freestoneangler

    freestoneangler Not to be confused with Freestone

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    So where do the Orvis Impregnated series fall in the long list of bamboo rods; low, mid or high end? I'm actually amazed they were able to get away with using the words rod and impregnated together back in the 50's and 60's... pretty risque for that time.
     
  9. Greg Armstrong

    Greg Armstrong OldRodsHaveMoreFun

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    I'd say Orvis bamboo falls in the "mid" range as far as prices go.
    They'd be worth a lot more if they hadn't produced so many of them over the years (supply/demand). The quality is generally very good, and they made some great tapers, although I'm certainly not an expert on Orvis rods. Others here know more about them than I do.
    You can easily find nice Orvis bamboo rods on either side of $450 if you look around.