dead horse.
Been there. Now I have to be more responsible since I have a CDL and work for the gov. Growing up sucks... I think your username is awesome. I always said my hip-hop name would be "Super Dope 10K"I don't think I'm sensitive. But I probably was ripped when I made that username back in the day.
Do you have an example of this? There may very well be, it's just something that I'm interested in and I've never heard of this shitty thing done among the various other shitty things that were done to native Americans.they tried to either place warring tribes on the same reservation or on reservations bordering or in close proximity to tribes that were historically enemies.
There was a definate and well documented attempt to extirminate native languages and cultures through boarding schools and agriculture programs and that is a terrible and sad thing. But do you really believe that ANYONE who wants to claim to be part of a "Tribe" should be allowed to harvest whatever resources that tribe traditionally harvested? If that's the case I'm feeling Makah and I want to go harpoon a whale. I doubt even a minority of native peoples would agree with you on this.I fully believe that as long as there is a group of people that have knowledge of specific culture/traditions and/or languages that a "Tribe" should exist regardless of "blood quantum".
Thanks for the examples. Guess it's not too suprising. As colonizers we have a way of drawing boundaries that lead to conflict. Sort of what we do...a few examples: The Flathead reservation (my home reservation) for one. Salish and Kootenai traditionally did not get along, the Crow reservation borders the Northern Cheyenne reservation and they were sworn enemies.....
The US government placed the Hopi reservation completely within the Navajo reservation thus creating a conflict....
Secondly, it is definitely a minority that agrees with this point of view, but there are some (a growing number on my reservation) but I've also talked to members from other tribes that are interested in pursuing this type of requirements for enrollment.
I can't speak for everyone, but from what I know personally and can theorize with some confidence is that the vast majority of tribal members have come to embrace the colonized mindset, and the "me" and "my" mentality and feelings of ownership over resources (fish, wildlife, timber, revenue). They certainly wouldn't want to share "their" resources with someone who wasn't from their tribe.
As for you "feeling Makah" it wasn't (and wouldn't be) that simple. The overwhelming majority of people who were "adopted" into our tribe had married into it, those individuals that didn't truly lived the life of a Salish person. They spoke the language, learned the traditions and culture and participated wholly in it. They spent many years (often their entire lives) living as a member of the Salish tribe without asking for anything in return.
I'm not personally aware of a lot of Makah traditions, but imagine spending years learning the language, learning the songs, participating in ceremonies before being able to have the honor of hunting a whale, because that's exactly what it was/is, an honor held for only those deemed worthy from what limited knowledge I have.
Feeling Makah (or interior Salish, or Crow, or Navajo etc) and living Makah (or interior Salish, Crow or Navajo) are two completely different things....
To finally answer your question, no, I don't want ANYBODY that claims to want to be part of the tribe to be able to harvest all of the resources the tribe can *(that's not the point, that is a European, colonized mindset again of "me", "my" and "our versus their" resources) but if someone is married into the tribe (especially someone from another tribe) or feels in their heart strong enough to spend years to learn the language, learn and practice the traditions and culture, participate in ceremonies and generally live among a said tribe as one of them I think the tribe should consider adopting them as a member.
Indeed River Pig, no shortage whatsoever! I just moved to Missoula from Ronan and while I saw it from the outside I truly had no idea how many until I moved here, lol so yeah I see your point about what I wish for!Thanks for the examples. Guess it's not too suprising. As colonizers we have a way of drawing boundaries that lead to conflict. Sort of what we do...
I shouldn't have been a smart ass about "feeling Makah". I don't nor do I want to harpoon a whale.
I can't speak to "feeling" vs "living" native since I don't have experience with either, but I can tell you from a few years living in Missoula (and I'm sure you've seen it too) that there's no shortage of disaffected yuppies in search of meaning in their lives who idolize native American traditions. Be careful what you wish for. Who gets to decide who'se "living" native enough?
Last time I uttered that, I drank to much...and it wasn't a pretty sight.Ukuk klush, oleman illahee.
Even though you missed the point, as bk paige pointed out, the state can enact any sort of legislation in regards to recreational vs. commercial fishing all they want, still will not have any impact on tribal gill netting. The treaty between the United States and the Hoh Tribe is a treaty between two sovereign nations, these treaties are the supreme law of the land, state legislation will have no impact whatsoever.Didn't have time or patience to read all 5 pages of this thread, but I just wanted to comment that while many of us disagree with the practice of harvesting wild steelhead, the practice of not marking their 1 fish per year on their catch record cards is rampant by many locals on the OP. I have seen it many times on multiple day trips where I will see the same group of locals harvesting native steelhead each day. Even though this is a disgrace and should warrant immediate WDFW enforcement, it is still a drop in the bucket compared to commercial gill netting. Allowing the tribes to aggressively gill net one day per week on the Hoh, or up to 4-5 days every week on rivers like the Queets is a shame and accounts for much higher percentages of native fish harvested. I know there are native tribal rights that the state must agree to, but when these tribes are setting up roadside stands to sell "fresh caught wild steelhead" to the general public for profit, I believe that a line has been crossed regarding the protection of sacred ancient fishing rituals.
If you truly care about protecting the wild steelhead of the Olympic Peninsula, consider contacting your state representatives and encouraging them to support House Bill 1660 which will prioritize recreational fishing over commercial fishing, hopefully cutting down the amount of gill netting that is allowed in our state. Here is a link to the bill if you want to read it : http://lawfilesext.leg.wa.gov/biennium/2015-16/Pdf/Bills/House Bills/1660.pdf
And here is a link to find the State Representative in your district.. It lists phone numbers and emails. Shoot them a quick note and let them know that what is going on pisses you off and you want them to do something about it. Make sure they know about House Bill 1660 and encourage them to support it. http://app.leg.wa.gov/DistrictFinder/