Ben Howard Pit Bull

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  1. Tim Lockhart

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    Take it out on the dog and the only one dumber than its owner is you. When carrying both a biscuit and a gun, I believe the biscuit is for the dog, the gun is for its owner. Otherwise it's like getting mad at my car (not me) for running you over. Of course I'm only referring to problem/nuisance dogs here. Sounds like BH pup is just being a dog.

    Likewise, IMO, knowing the general perception regarding pit bulls, it's "less than responsible" for an owner to have it off lead in public...to say the very least.

    BTW, Pit Bulls don't suck but many of their owners do.
     
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    Wow TFG is an asshole!!
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  3. TallFlyGuy

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    Come on FF,

    There are bad owners of boxers, Labs, bulldogs etc etc, But you don't see city wide bans or any other kind of widespread animosity toward any of those dogs. Pitbulls are definately a problem regardeless of the owner. I'm sure all the attacks that have made pitbulls famous are from bad owners....Yeah right.
     
  4. spanishfly

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    Omar Quiroga had an encounter with this same Pit a few weeks back. Ill let him tell the story. Some people who have labs or growing operations use pits to scare off would be intruders.
     
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    A Pit Bull running around with no collar or ID is just bad ju ju for the dog or the person. I'd just call it in.
     
  6. sothereiwas

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    Stigma is why they get all the news coverage. They dont cause the largest percentage of dog attacks. Its called fear and ignorance. I would be much more worried about a poodle or a chow. My pits were attacked twice by Aussie mixes. Must be the pits fault.

    TFG hows the koolaid
     
  7. Charles Sullivan

    Charles Sullivan dreaming through the come down

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    In the United States, pit bulls make up one to three per cent of the overall dog population and cause more than 50 per cent of serious attacks.

    I got the above info. by googling Pit bull statistics. It seemed in line with any of the other information even from seemingly pro-pit bull web pages. I will not let my children near them, ever. That's how I do it. You all can do as you want.

    It seems to me that there are labs that won't fetch but then at the age of 6 or 7 will suddenly fetch something. It's bred into them. A pit bull may not attack for years but at the age of 6 or 7....
    With their breeding and massive strength it doesn't seem worth it to me.

    BTW- call in the dog next time.

    Go Red Sox,

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  8. Salmo_g

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    There's more reason than the media reports for being especially concerned about encountering a PB sans handler. I just read the stats a few days ago, but can't remember the numbers. The conclusion is that even though Pit Bulls are a small % of the dogs reported for biting people, they are a very disproportionately high relative to their numbers. Something like 10 if not 20 times more likely to bite people and require medical attention. Just that bit of information is reason enough to be very cautious of an encounter with an unattended PB.

    I like dogs, but I've come to realize that I really like dogs whose owners/handlers have actually bothered to train them and make them into animals that are a pleasure to be around. Dogs of practically every breed that have never learned anything, including their name, are more of a pain in the ass than those that are responsive to people.

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  9. cutthroatking

    cutthroatking screw work lets fish

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    So lets see here.I've been bit by a poodle,sheperd,basset hound,springer and chased by a pittbull(I was faster than my little brother)My point is it doesn't matter what kind of dog it is if they want to bite you they will.There animals for gods sake.It pisses me off that pitts are singled out.Look up and see what breed has bitten the most people you might be suprised.By the way it is not a pittbull.Oh I forgot to tell you the basset was my own dog.shes bit me twice now. I just don't sneak up behind her.My dog some times gets out of the yard I hope none of you dog killing assholes are around next time she does.

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  10. Buck

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    iagree

    Everyone knows that when a pit-bull gets a hold of you, or your kid, your in real trouble. It's not your lab that lashed back from fear, or the poodle you tried to take a treat from. Your in a real dog fight with a Pitt bull.
    Personally, I have to wonder who would want to have a pit bull as a dog. It's a continuous battle to prove they are good dogs, and If you wrong, and it bites someone, besides you, they will probably sue. No thanks.
     
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    All those statistics show is that the dogs tend to do more damage. Pit Bull is a term used for a group of dog breeds. So comparing statistics with a German Sheppard, or another single breed is hardly accurate.
     
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    Stigma? I think it's proof and evidence they are a problem.

    Koolaid is ok. Crystal light is what I prefer and drink when fishing.

    I don't think the people who compiled those stats lumped pitts in with boxers or rotts etc. The stats are the proof behind the pudding. They are very accurate. You can read some for yourself...

    http://www.dogbitelaw.com/PAGES/statistics.html Scroll down to the Deadliest dogs.

    http://www.dogexpert.com/Dog Bite Statistics/DogBiteStatistics.html

    The breeds most often involved in fatal attacks are Rottweilers and Pit bulls.

    In the United States, pit bulls make up one to three per cent of the overall dog population and cause more than 50 per cent of serious attacks.
     
  13. Itchy Dog

    Itchy Dog Some call me Kirk Werner

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    Deja Vu anyone? I could swear this same issue has come up before.
    I searched the archives but most of the results are related
    to Bull Trout. Boy, you wanna talk about ferocious predators...
     
  14. sothereiwas

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    "The breeds most often involved in fatal attacks are Rottweilers and Pit bulls."

    Hardly speaks to the frequency of pit attacks and comparison to other breeds


    "In the United States, pit bulls make up one to three per cent of the overall dog population and cause more than 50 per cent of serious attacks."

    This only shows the dogs do more damage when they attack. What do they consider a pit bull?


    In 37 years, 342 children were killed by dogs, an average of about nine children a year. Shockingly, approximately three children are killed each day, or 1,100 per year, by their parents. Delise notes that "A child in the United States is over 100 times more likely to be killed by his or her parent or caretaker than by a dog."

    An unsupervised dog off leash anywhere is unacceptable. The breed is hardly the issue.
     
  15. sothereiwas

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    Our veterinarian cant even tell what kind of terrier our dogs are. So how does the moron at channel 6 know. :beer1:
     
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