Brazda- Thanks for the info, I guess maybe this buck could have been inflicted by the multiple explanations you provide. 9 out of 10 fish, that is much higher than I thought... Do you guide much on the queets around this time each spring? I guide out of Ketchum, Idaho and understand the benefit to hiring a local knowledgeable guide. I may be interested in exploring the queets next spring if I can find a buddy to come with me. I'd like to learn that river from a master, it really intrigued me.